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If he thinks he's gonna hire Pasternak...

Pitino is clearly interested. These idiots need to focus on bagging him not an assistant from Arizona. Plenty of other candidates have expressed interest including Scott Brooks, former OKC Thunder coach.

We need a big name coach, no more starter guys.
 
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If Pitino is interested we need to jump on that immediately!!!!! Pitino would bring immediate relevance to the program. The sky is the limit with Pitino as HC. How in world could Jessup consider ANYBODY else if Pitino is interested?! Do we have the most inept administrators running the university or what!?
 
USA_REBEL said:
If Pitino is interested we need to jump on that immediately!!!!! Pitino would bring immediate relevance to the program. The sky is the limit with Pitino as HC. How in world could Jessup consider ANYBODY else if Pitino is interested?! Do we have the most inept administrators running the university or what!?
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Money...

It all comes down to booster money and whether the boosters are 'united' on a particular guy. If not, some may take their ball home and not want to play.

UNLV does not have the money to hire Pitino or any other 'elite' coach without considerable booster support.
 
Pitino's money guy apparently met with Steve Wynn in Vegas. The money will be there

UNLV's chronically inept admin could still mess it up, maybe on purpose if Linvengood and Jessup are conspiring to hire Pasternak.
 
You need to start emailing Jessup and tell everyone you know to email him and call the office and express your concerns. If you dont and you just complain on a message board then your voice won't be heard. If it is Pasternack I am going to be pissed. I don't want to lose my seats but I will have to look long and hard at that renewal.

If the process goes into the 2nd week of March then we will know it's probably not Pitino.
 
FACT: The only way we will have any chance at Pitino is if boosters put up almost ALL of the MONEY!
FACT: The boosters that have the money are not going to care what people who have NO MONEY think!

As for posters saying that Jessup has Pasternack as the lead pick as the new coach, I am not sure I would put much credence into that until we see him come to UNLV for an interview or other concrete sign that he is considered a finalist.

As for the process going to the second week of March meaning that it probably will not be Pitino, it can also be said that we are unlikely to read anything until the last day of the current regular season which is March 6th. If there is any traction at all regarding Pitino, that is the earliest that we could expect any type of formal interview or visit to occur.
 
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manic water said:
Pitino's money guy apparently met with Steve Wynn in Vegas. The money will be there

UNLV's chronically inept admin could still mess it up, maybe on purpose if Linvengood and Jessup are conspiring to hire Pasternak.
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What I want to understand is why Livengood is even involved in this process.
 
Actually these posts give me a bit of confidence that the administration recognizes that Jessup and TKM are really not knowledgable enough to make this hire without input from an experienced AD. So it is GREAT that Jim Livengood is involved. The last thing unlv needs is for "boosters" to hire a basketball coach, especially a tainted Pitino.
 
lvhiker said:
Actually these posts give me a bit of confidence that the administration recognizes that Jessup and TKM are really not knowledgable enough to make this hire without input from an experienced AD. So it is GREAT that Jim Livengood is involved. The last thing unlv needs is for "boosters" to hire a basketball coach, especially a tainted Pitino.
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I question his motives, though. Is he looking for the best candidate for UNLV, or is he doing a solid for his old zona program?
 
lvhiker said:
Actually these posts give me a bit of confidence that the administration recognizes that Jessup and TKM are really not knowledgable enough to make this hire without input from an experienced AD. So it is GREAT that Jim Livengood is involved. The last thing unlv needs is for "boosters" to hire a basketball coach, especially a tainted Pitino.
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Livengood made some horrible hires in his career. I hope his input is minimal.
 
TomKingsley said:
Livengood hired Hauck and Rice - why would anyone want his consultation?
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In his defense both hires at the time looked like the right moves.

Hauck was 80-17 at Montana with I think 2 FCS championship game appearances. He was considered at the time a very good hire by UNLV.

Look what Theus has done after being passed over by UNLV. Found issues with the NCAA, and has hardly established himself as a particularly good coach.
 
If we can't get Pitino then we need to hire a guy with head coaching experience that has had success! No more first timers! I think Youmans is right, UNLV is a good enough program to not have to hire a guy like Pasternack, he needs to go to a wcc or wac school first then if he succeededs he can come up to to a school like UNLV. Were selling our selfs short, were a good program ready to take it to the next level! Man i hope they dont mess this up like they did back in 2001!
 
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Livengood hired Miller at Arizona. Was that a good hire?
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Great hire- but Livengood offered the job to Tim Floyd first. Arizona was very lucky that Floyd thought USC was a better job than U of A.

Mackovic, Stoops, Rice, Hauck- Meh, I don't see Livengood as some great coach finder.
 
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Livengood hired Miller at Arizona. Was that a good hire?
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That was a great hire but Miller had a lot of success at Xavier as a head coach prior to being hired at Arizona so he was definitely a proven commodity. Pasternick had no success when he was a head coach. Unfortunately, if UNLV goes that direction, the turnout for our San Jose St. game earlier this month will be the norm for every game next season.
 
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Livengood hired Miller at Arizona. Was that a good hire?
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Not true at all. In fact, Livingood was run out of Arizona after he tried to name Kevin O'neill as Lute Olsens successor. I remember this very well. Miller was hired at Arizona despite Livingood. Go on the Wildcat boards and they will tell you about Livingood and they were happy he left. His football hire at Arizona was terrible too. Heres the UA press release naming Kevin O'neill as Lute's successor: https://uanews.arizona.edu/story/succession-plan-announced-for-head-basketball-coaching-position
 
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lvhiker said:
Actually these posts give me a bit of confidence that the administration recognizes that Jessup and TKM are really not knowledgable enough to make this hire without input from an experienced AD. So it is GREAT that Jim Livengood is involved. The last thing unlv needs is for "boosters" to hire a basketball coach, especially a tainted Pitino.
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UNLV needs booster money right now to make the type of hire needed to get things turned around.

I get the sentiment though, I hope that we get to a point where football and basketball are generating enough revenue that the university is not beholden to boosters.
 
Bullmastiff 1 said:
UNLV needs booster money right now to make the type of hire needed to get things turned around.

I get the sentiment though, I hope that we get to a point where football and basketball are generating enough revenue that the university is not beholden to boosters.
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Its beyond me how any UNLV fan, booster or not, would not see the great opportunity we have if Pitino is interested in the job. He would be the best coach UNLV has ever had, minus Tarkanian himself of course! How anybody else would even be considered for the job if Pitino is on the table absolutely blows my mind.
 
USA_REBEL said:
Its beyond me how any UNLV fan, booster or not, would not see the great opportunity we have if Pitino is interested in the job. He would be the best coach UNLV has ever had, minus Tarkanian himself of course! How anybody else would even be considered for the job if Pitino is on the table absolutely blows my mind.
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I am not against hiring Pitino. I just don't know if the money is truly there or not.
 
USA_REBEL said:
Its beyond me how any UNLV fan, booster or not, would not see the great opportunity we have if Pitino is interested in the job. He would be the best coach UNLV has ever had, minus Tarkanian himself of course! How anybody else would even be considered for the job if Pitino is on the table absolutely blows my mind.
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Side note, if you read the Louisville boards, they have a little different view of how this will all play out.

Most seem to feel like Rick wants to come back next year.

We will see...
 
Bullmastiff 1 said:
Side note, if you read the Louisville boards, they have a little different view of how this will all play out.

Most seem to feel like Rick wants to come back next year.

We will see...
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Of course he wants to continue at Louisville, all things being equal. But things are not equal there, the self imposed ban is likely the tip of the ice burg.

UNLV needs a closer to strike while the iron's hot! And that closer is not Jessup or Livingood. Maybe Harry Reid is the guy, he has taken an interest.
 
manic water said:
Of course he wants to continue at Louisville, all things being equal. But things are not equal there, the self imposed ban is likely the tip of the ice burg.

UNLV needs a closer to strike while the iron's hot! And that closer is not Jessup or Livingood. Maybe Harry Reid is the guy, he has taken an interest.
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If you read the Louisville message boards, there is a very different narrative going on than what we have on these boards.

The papers there seem to think if Louisville attempts to push Rick out, there could possibly be some legal wranglings.

If the self imposed ban is only the tip of the iceberg, how close did/does the scandal get to Rick? Does it get to a point where UNLV should think twice about hiring Rick?

I hope Rick becomes our next coach. I think there are a lot of hoops to jump through before it gets done though.

We should know in a couple of weeks, one way or another.
 
Possible vacated national title... Of course the fans are desperate to keep him, just like Memphis wantned Calipari to stay. There's not going to be any lawsuit if Pitino is fired, if he's smart he jumps shimp before it goes down.
 
manic water said:
Possible vacated national title... Of course the fans are desperate to keep him, just like Memphis wantned Calipari to stay. There's not going to be any lawsuit if Pitino is fired, if he's smart he jumps shimp before it goes down.
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Not arguing. Just pointing out that there is a completely different narrative on that side.
 
manic water said:
Possible vacated national title... Of course the fans are desperate to keep him, just like Memphis wantned Calipari to stay. There's not going to be any lawsuit if Pitino is fired, if he's smart he jumps shimp before it goes down.
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According to Louisville fans the school would have to go the 'show cause' route to fire him. It really depends on the wording of his contract. I think the more likely scenario is a 'in the best interest for both parties' amicable parting of ways.
 
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Bullmastiff 1 said:
Side note, if you read the Louisville boards, they have a little different view of how this will all play out.

Most seem to feel like Rick wants to come back next year.

We will see...
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I don't know if they actually feel like RP is going to go back next season, or if its just wishful thinking on their part. Of course, the same could be said about us--maybe he has no interest in UNLV whatsoever and we're just all delusional thinking he does. Who knows!

All I know is, if boosters are willing to put down large amounts of money to hire a new coach, how could they not be united in getting Pitino? There is absolutely no better coach available! If they really have UNLV's best interest in mind, hiring Pitino should be a no-brainer.
 
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Not arguing. Just pointing out that there is a completely different narrative on that side.
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They have been pretty mum on the topic. I have been monitoring the chatter as well. Seems like they don't even talk about. Either don't want to acknowledge it or not worried about it. Some were more concerned when the allegations hit, but its simmered down since then.
 
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According to Louisville fans the school would have to go the 'show cause' route to fire him. It really depends on the wording of his contract. I think the more likely scenario is a 'in the best interest for both parties' amicable parting of ways.
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I assume if it happens, that will be the way it happens.

In my mind, if it works out, it will be because he knows the best thing to do is just move forward. He probably wants to have one more job, his final job, and have lots of nice places to eat while working it.
 
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They have been pretty mum on the topic. I have been monitoring the chatter as well. Seems like they don't even talk about. Either don't want to acknowledge it or not worried about it. Some were more concerned when the allegations hit, but its simmered down since then.
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A lot of conjecture over there (much like here I guess). Some people think he will fight it if Louisville tries to fire him. Others think he will leave in an amicable fashion. Some think Louisville would need a 'show cause' to fire him.

Not sure if this link will work..

http://www.scout.com/college/louisville/forums/2755-the-yum/14569542-rick-pitino-on-93-9-at-4-10-p-m
 
[QUOTE="USA_REBEL, post: 212427, member: 5068" Of course, the same could be said about us--maybe he has no interest in UNLV whatsoever and we're just all delusional thinking he does. Who knows!

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He didn't send his money guy all the way to Vegas to meet with Wynn if he has no interest in UNLV whatsoever.
 
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