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We had 29 seniors and 20 plus transfers so far. A complete overhaul and the commitments we've had so far have been underwhelming. A lot of the better talent is already committing to other schools at a rapid pace.
 
We had 29 seniors and 20 plus transfers so far. A complete overhaul and the commitments we've had so far have been underwhelming. A lot of the better talent is already committing to other schools at a rapid pace.
The two portal commits that UNLV has had would both be at or near the top of the class. It is going to take more than a couple of days for them to get more than a handful of commits!
 
We had 29 seniors and 20 plus transfers so far. A complete overhaul and the commitments we've had so far have been underwhelming. A lot of the better talent is already committing to other schools at a rapid pace.
Eh. I don’t like it. We just came off our best season ever and we are losing a ton to graduation, now to the portal. It does suck.

Not really concerned though. It’ll be tough, a lot of work to do. But it makes it easier, in a sense, to get what he wants. It’s a cleaner slate. It’ll be interesting, makes spring ball even more important than usual.
 
It may up being a near complete rebuild from a personnel standpoint. But at least it wouldnt be from a perception standpoint.

It is easier to tunrover a roster these days but hard to be super successful right away that way. Look and Deion that first year. A lot of buzz, but they ended up being not very good that year. This year was much better.

Even before Odom left I thought we would likely take a step a back from graduation alone. A lot of things lined up to make this past season what it was.

I think we will be good next season, I think we will be a bowl team and still probably be in the mix for the MW championship game. I just don't think we will be winning double digit games


We do need to try to talk some players back and of course hit some doubles, triples, and least a solo home run or 2 in the portal.
 
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It may up being a near complete rebuild from a personnel standpoint. But at least it wouldnt be from a perception standpoint.

It is easier to tunrover a roster these days but hard to be super successful right away that way. Look and Deion that first year. A lot of buzz, but they ended up being not very good that year. This year was much better.

Even before Odom left I thought we would likely take a step a back from graduation alone. A lot of things lined up to make this past season what it was.

I think we will be good next season, I think we will be a bowl team and still probably be in the mix for the MW championship game. I just don't think we will be winning double digit games


We do need to try to talk some players back and of course hit some doubles, triples, and least a solo home run or 2 in the portal.
There is a huge difference between what Deion walked into and what Mullen is walking into. Deion took over a 1-11 program while Mullen will take over a 11-3 program.
 
There is a huge difference between what Deion walked into and what Mullen is walking into. Deion took over a 1-11 program while Mullen will take over a 11-3 program.
Yes. But what could be the same is the complete roster turnover.

SJSU actually did a really good job. They lost nearly everyone and came back pretty strong all things considered.

I think the general perception of the program does matter. Harder to build from scratch. I think Deion being Deion helps transcend some of that. But he did struggle that first year
 
We had 29 seniors and 20 plus transfers so far. A complete overhaul and the commitments we've had so far have been underwhelming. A lot of the better talent is already committing to other schools at a rapid pace.
Looking at some of our portal offers has me concerned because I look and see the other offers are James Madison, Toledo and the equivalent and a SC QB who looks like a backup. But it is early hopefully that improves.
 
It may up being a near complete rebuild from a personnel standpoint. But at least it wouldnt be from a perception standpoint.

It is easier to tunrover a roster these days but hard to be super successful right away that way. Look and Deion that first year. A lot of buzz, but they ended up being not very good that year. This year was much better.

Even before Odom left I thought we would likely take a step a back from graduation alone. A lot of things lined up to make this past season what it was.

I think we will be good next season, I think we will be a bowl team and still probably be in the mix for the MW championship game. I just don't think we will be winning double digit games


We do need to try to talk some players back and of course hit some doubles, triples, and least a solo home run or 2 in the portal.
The biggest area where rebuilds are difficult is on the O line. Its difficult to get 5 guys to gel and be a cohesive unit. But that was going to be the case no matter what with pretty much everyone being a senior. Hopefully some of those guys who got relief reps this season stick on. Keeping Jet is huge, hoping him and the transfer from Utah give our run game a chance.
 
The biggest area where rebuilds are difficult is on the O line. Its difficult to get 5 guys to gel and be a cohesive unit. But that was going to be the case no matter what with pretty much everyone being a senior. Hopefully some of those guys who got relief reps this season stick on. Keeping Jet is huge, hoping him and the transfer from Utah give our run game a chance.
Very true.
But a spread option O line may require different type of players
 
Im not worried. there will be thousands of players in the transfer portal looking for new homes. We have a very attractive new home with a coach who has a history of being very successful and a schedule that screams "Come win and play for a National championship" which a lot of these guys in the portal will be looking at. Turnover is kind of the name of the game these days in the portal era, especially with a competitive team. Just look at even the bad teams in conference and see how many players they are losing... Itll be key to re-recruit some of the guys entering the portal, but also there alot of players out there needing places to play and time.
 
Very true.
But a spread option O line may require different type of players
That's very true as well. Our O line great this season at the run game, but towards the end the pass protection became a bit of an issue. I m not sure if that was a player type issue, or a scheme thing. Statistically, Williams got sacked way more this year than Maiava did last year. In 2023, we were sacked 26 times losing 161 yards. This year we got sacked 41 times losing 283 yards.
 
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The biggest area where rebuilds are difficult is on the O line. Its difficult to get 5 guys to gel and be a cohesive unit. But that was going to be the case no matter what with pretty much everyone being a senior. Hopefully some of those guys who got relief reps this season stick on. Keeping Jet is huge, hoping him and the transfer from Utah give our run game a chance.
I would add DL to this because we have a hard time getting decent DL even being in the MWC. I would like to see OL, DL, WR, QB, CB and Pass Rushers from decent conferences if possible. If he can find good guys in these spots, he should be able to fill the other positions from our holdovers and other decent G5 guys!
 
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That's very true as well. Our O line great this season at the run game, but towards the end the pass protection became a bit of an issue. I m not sure if that was a player type issue, or a scheme thing. Statistically, Williams got sacked way more this year than Maiava did last year. In 2023, we were sacked 26 times losing 161 yards. This year we got sacked 41 times losing 283 yards.
I actually disagree a bit with the O line.
Having 2 preseason all confernce tackles I expected more.
Our run game was heavily elevated by scrambles. We struggled to run between the tackles most of the time. The run game performance was a big part of our red zone struggles.
Pass pro wasn't great either as you mentioned.
That's why I wasn't terribly upset with the loss of Vice.
 
I don't remember what the situation looked like when Odom took over and how that compares to now? The biggest diff seems to be the number of seniors graduating?
 
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I actually disagree a bit with the O line.
Having 2 preseason all confernce tackles I expected more.
Our run game was heavily elevated by scrambles. We struggled to run between the tackles most of the time. The run game performance was a big part of our red zone struggles.
Pass pro wasn't great either as you mentioned.
That's why I wasn't terribly upset with the loss of Vice.
That's a great point. I went back and I compared 2023 to 2024 and removed all QB yards, even the designed run ones since I don't have a great way to separate the data. In 2023 that number totaled to 2236 yards while in 2024, it was 2403 yards. It was better, but 167 yards isn't a tremendous improvement.
 
Brutal castration to our offensive line. Not gonna lie it’s concerning to lose this much. Basically will be a complete rebuild at this point. I’m interested if any of these guys are just “testing” the market and will return or if all plan on going to Purdue.
 
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It may up being a near complete rebuild from a personnel standpoint. But at least it wouldnt be from a perception standpoint.

It is easier to tunrover a roster these days but hard to be super successful right away that way. Look and Deion that first year. A lot of buzz, but they ended up being not very good that year. This year was much better.

Even before Odom left I thought we would likely take a step a back from graduation alone. A lot of things lined up to make this past season what it was.

I think we will be good next season, I think we will be a bowl team and still probably be in the mix for the MW championship game. I just don't think we will be winning double digit games


We do need to try to talk some players back and of course hit some doubles, triples, and least a solo home run or 2 in the portal.
Good next season? I think the expectations will be high as ever which I like but we are gonna be in serious revamp mode.
 
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