Football talks
- Thread starter 1Tripoda
- Start date
What do you think about the comments that UNLV is sexy? Is UNLV sexy?
Feels like a male whore...lol
Feels like a male whore...lol
We are the prettiest girl in the g5 ball. Hoping the powers that be let the B12 ask us out.
These two sentences are so wrong in so many ways. Why can't we be the sexy dude that the girls want to ask us out?
Aren't we the one asking them out? So we're the dorky kid that goes away for a summer and comes back ripped with some cash and a fancy car and looking to move up a weight class...
I am good with that scenario. As long as there is no cosmetic or any other surgery involved.
GCU is sexy. Why? Because they made 3 of the last 4 tourneys. UNLV is EXTREMELY sexy. Besides our latest success, add our facilities and Allegiant. It's a no brainer that Big12 money would tighten our sexy asses even more. Now add Vegas to the equation. We're no longer the ugly girl that has to buy her own drinks (*cough* UNR).
Odom proven you can win at UNLV, now if KK joins him in winning, fans come and B12 will be there waiting. Just freaking win.
I stopped following bb about 15 years ago. What I've gathered from this FOOTBALL board is he hasn't done very well. I see he is just over .500 in wins. What's the problem? Is it his coaching? Recruiting talent? His intangibles and inability to get the most out of his players? Is it time to move on?
At the end last year, UNLV went to the NIT. Not bad. Won two games in the tournament. Beat tournament ranked Princeton and Boston College but lost to eventual champ Seton Hall. During the regular season and especially during the OOC games, UNLV lose some stupid ass games like Southern, Pepperdine also AFA during MWC play. Just stupid, head scratching losses during his tenure turn a lot of people off.
37-27 record over two years. I think people have more difficulty with the second half collapse last season than anything else. Since it has only been two seasons so far, I have no doubt that coach Kruger will get another full season to see if he can improve the team more than marginally which was one win from season one (18-14) to season two (19-13).
My feeling is that the team must improve to at least a minimum of 22-10 next season, as well as make the NCAA tournament, but what would satisfy everyone else? What would be considered a failure that should send Kruger packing? What a key games next season that UNLV needs to win?
Not making the NCAA tournament is an automatic disqualified at this point and would result in him getting fired. It doesn't matter what games he wins, he needs to qualify for the tournament or he is done period. End of story, no one wants to hear how close we came or how we're almost there
It actually wasn’t bad an NIT bid plus two wins over decent teams is better than anything since Rice so as a step it wasn’t bad and if we earn an NCAA bid this year then I will say we are headed in the right direction. Unfortunately, at least from the outside, it looks like last year was a peak and not a step.
Is that really how low our metrics have gotten that making the NIT is "not bad"... in a league that got 6 bids we are settling for "not bad"...
You are correct, the team was 21-13 last season. I looked it up quickly, and for some reason the source left off last year. Doesn't change the fact the team changed marginally with the same number of loses as the season before with 2 more wins. The two wins and one loss cam from the NIT tournament. Two good wins and one total failure loss in a game that it appears the team had quit before it even started.
So if the team went 12-19, but got lucky and won the MWC tournament and made the NCAA, you would be OK with that? While making the NCAA tournament is a must, I still have expectations of a minimal acceptable record, what would that be to you?
If we make the NCAA tournament, it will be significantly better than any other season in past decade... they wouldn't fire a coach that makes the NCAA, but honestly if we're 12-19, we're not winning 4 games in a row.
UNLV need to focus on football this year not the basketball for now. Let cKK and cLK do their things. Lon is a HOFer, he is no joke. Kevin is his only son. All the resources should be focused on football right now.
If UNLV do get extra money for basketball, focus on getting that tall kid and DJ's little brother for next year.
We’ve needed to focus in football for the last 10 years. I m happy its getting the attention it needs now, and we are overcoming decades of neglect.
We need to keep an eye on basketball because all we need to do is fire a guy who is an underachiever whose dad is famous, not him!
The AD made the right kind of hire for football and there is no reason to think he can’t do the same in basketball, get rid of Kevin if he doesn’t have us in the NCAA’s this spring.
No NIT “silver lining” crap!
If the formula of mediocre basketball plus successful football requires bare minimum for hoops and most of the coffers to football, you do it.
We can say “why can’t we have both”?
We never have had both. And the school hasn’t come close to showing the propensity to do both.
Maybe go all in on football, that’s where the bigger prize money is …. Try to establish something strong and consistent, then maybe push more towards hoops as football has some sustained success.
That’s never been on my bingo card. Any fuel from the “Tark years” has been long exhausted. Most of those that are actually pissed that we are so mediocre in hoops have walked away. Sure, we can hire a 3.5M coach and have a chance at getting respectability back, but that’s 2.5 taken from football. Is it worth that gamble? Maybe. But I can see the other side too.
Maybe just roll with keeping basketball costs down as low as possible so football can be the sole focus.
Sounds defeatist, but we haven’t sniffed downwind of a real postseason in a decade. (In general) The fans don’t care, the school doesn’t care. If they did care, there would never have been a Menzies. They gave up, threw in the towel. Even the president at the time gave direction, just hire the guy (Menzies) to stop the bleeding. That’s giving up.
Plus, the league is going to get ridiculously weak coming up soon so you should be able to “represent” and get an occasional bid/15 seed without being a good team.
While it may have been for a very short time, UNLV did have both good football and basketball before Robert Maxson came in and took the hatchet to the athletic department in the mid 80's. As for the school not caring, that has been totally true for decades, but the current administration is totally different and has put a lot of time, energy and money into athletics. The idea behind the $150 million Rebel-Up campaign was not put together just to fund football, but to upgrade the entire athletic department. The side advantage is that it does look like a new indoor football field will ultimately come from the donations. https://unlvrebels.com/news/2023/10/11/general-unlv-athletics-announces-rebel-up-campaign.aspx
If mediocre football and decent basketball was the ticket to big time success; reno and New Mexico would be hot ticket items for the pac. Gonzaga was an outlier of desperation, and would have never been considered if we didn’t say no.
There was that very tiny blip of overlapping of success with Robinson/Bayno.
1.) Doesn’t mean we can’t!
2.) Nope, if Kevin doesn’t make the NCAA Tournament this year you can hm!
We don’t need a 5 million dollar a year guy here?!!
Just get a former HC who has run a program and knows something about managing the NIL and checking in with DJ and his vision for the team.
No kicking the can down the road another year or two!
There is only one name that fit description in the entire country. His name is tainted, though.
He's at McNeese State right now.
Last edited:
There are a dozen or so coaches out there who are in lessor programs that will be thought of as excellent, nationally recognized coaches 10 years from now. They will be young, hungry and innovative in all aspects of the game. Harper needs to identify them and get the best he can. Hire that man and hope he flourishes.
Football is priority 1, 2 & 3. I’m all for improving MBB provided it doesn’t come at the expense of FB. A lateral move for the sake of making a move can also take the program backwards bc we’re going back to square one with rebuilding a program, establishing new local ties, etc. Not that it can’t be done, but Harp would need to find the right guy at the same or similar comp package who can immediately move the program forward. Again not impossible, but given what’s at stake with FB and UNLV’s future in ALL athletic programs he will need to carefully balance making changes in key sports. When you look at it from that perspective a change may be less likely short of CKK having a losing season.
I’m all for that but UNLV is Woke, you gotta be squeaky clean.
Since Tark, everybody has been squeaky clean, minimal NCAA problems at the time of hire while “unsavory” figures wouldn’t be touched.
But I’m all for it. A guy can be a POS but still be an effective leader/coach. His attitude, demeanor, past, morality doesn’t faze me. Certain lines, yes, but banging a waitress? I don’t care. Just win.
You have to pretty much accept that UNLV will only consider the mainstream. Which kind of flies in the face of what being a Rebel is.
Do you think UNLV would turn down Kelvin Sampson, if he said " I want to coach here"?
But …. If in their heart of hearts, the want football to reach as high as possible …. With nobody caring about hoops (obviously, WE do, but not many are left)…. It could be just as easy to make the decision to fund football, football, football …. And set it so UNLV just treads water, since nobody cares.
Basically, a flip flop of the way we handled things in the 80’s/90’s and beyond.
Let’s say, let’s just say … UNLV gets to where the good Boise State was … nobody will care what basketball is doing. Maybe that’s the goal? Of course publically, you have to say differently. People are sooooooo easy to fool.
Taking the program backwards …. To where? Not making the NCAAT in 10 years? We are much closer to San Jose than SDSU. And have been. I mean, sure; it could get worse … we could be a program at the cellar of the MWC … winning 12-14 games per year. But those teams have accomplished as much as UNLV has. So backwards.. how much further back can we go?
Slow growth does not work. It’s a loser attitude. If UNLV is serious, you’d know it immediately with the hire. It wouldn’t be “safe”, it wouldn’t be “because we couldn’t find the money”…. If KK doesn’t make it to the NCAAT and he’s not fired .. or if he is, and they hire Tim Miles or Pasternak …. They don’t care. They’re fine with what we are.
Huh? Absolutely they’d turn him down. They’d say they don’t have the money and hide behind that. He’s too tainted. We had that opportunity in the past and wouldn’t pursue at all, it was a no because of his past indiscretions. Hilarious, no? Because he’d have been a great fit here, imo.
Dude, our “rebellious” school doesn’t want to risk any potential negativity or black cloud …. We aren’t Rebels. We are compliant sheep. It’s embarrassing to be 180 degrees from the identity you were known for, for me personally, an identity that was extremely attractive.
I think it's unwise to have boosters put their $$ for a "name" BB coach. Smarter to get an up and comer and put the money to NIL. If there is money for both then I think you absolutely get the best name available. But I don't think there is.
UNLV have all of these shiny toys like the T&M, Allegiant, Fertitittia's complex, R1 university, med school, dental school, law school, hotel school...all of it. Like a dude with a 12' schlong sitting around on a Friday's night waiting for the Prom Queen to give up. Sometimes, you gotta mess around with the maidens before the queen made up her damn mind. Probably a bad example on my part. Just feel like UNLV is passing up some great opportunities in the past......
Similar threads
