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OT: OFF TOPIC Does Lake Mead fill up again?
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There are 16 rivers between San Francisco and the Oregon border that empty into the pacific. They account for 40% of the total runoff of California Mountains. They would need to be dammed to divert a portion of their water South. There are several problems with this. The terrain of these rivers would be difficult and expensive to dam but not impossible. Damming the rivers would make life difficult for Salmon and white water rafting. Environmentalists are in favor of dismantling dams/ not making new ones and the local residents of NorCal are generally against anything in their territory helping the rest of the state.
It's much easier to take water from Lake Mead.
The problemo is that fire season and rain season seem to somehow crash together in CA. Even though we got no rain in last year lol.
It's not always 'mismanagement' when shit happens out of the ordinary.
65 feet below my land under Pahrump, there’s water.
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No one has rejected a desalination plant because it would increase salt water in the sea wtf. There's issue with older plants and leftover brine that you can's just go dump it anywhere but the problem is more like current desalination plants just suck and are completely inefficient. The current plants are basically just big RO systems that we have under our sinks and they are slow and use a shit ton of electricity.
"No one has rejected a desalination plant because it would increase salt water in the sea wtf."
In 2022 the Poseidon Plant was rejected because of fears due to salinization. Read the 6th and 7th paragraphs of the article below.
Agency Unanimously Rejects California Desalination Project
The California Coastal Commission has rejected a long-standing proposal to build a $1.4 billion seawater desalination plant to turn ocean water into drinking water.
www.nbcsandiego.com
“Poseidon’s long-running proposal was supported by Gov. Gavin Newsom but faced ardent opposition from environmentalists who said drawing in large amounts of ocean water and releasing salty discharge back into the ocean would kill billions of tiny marine organisms that make up the base of the food chain along a large swath of the coast.” which is true and I already said above… you can’t just dump brine anywhere, it’s going to **** things up where it’s dumped.
but that’s not the reason the plant wasn’t approved:
Critics said the water would be too expensive and wasn’t urgently needed in the area where it would be built, which is less dependent on state and federal water due to an ample aquifer and water recycling program.
Commissioners cited those issues in following a staff recommendation and rejecting the proposal. They also cited the energy cost of running the plant and the fact that it would sit in an earthquake fault zone.
but that’s not the reason the plant wasn’t approved:
Critics said the water would be too expensive and wasn’t urgently needed in the area where it would be built, which is less dependent on state and federal water due to an ample aquifer and water recycling program.
Commissioners cited those issues in following a staff recommendation and rejecting the proposal. They also cited the energy cost of running the plant and the fact that it would sit in an earthquake fault zone.
There’s plenty of places where desalination makes sense and actually works. I wish I could find the YouTube video on Singapore’s (?) water system and how they supply millions of gallons to the city where there is 0 fresh water sources available and part of the system is desalination.
I'm out of this discussion. I've done your research. I can do no more.
How accurate is this? There’s no community note on it which leads me to think that it’s not wrong.
I had nephews when they were younger about 9 and 7 at the time and the question was “What would be a cool idea to make that would help save the planet” and Elijah replied “How about making gigantic overheard reservoirs of water that would catch all the 🌧️ rain so that we can have water”
It is fun the way he is catching them in all their past lies and ineptitude!
Snowpack in the Rockies isn't looking so good right now...of the trend continues we're looking to be right back where Lake Mead was a few years ago. Hopefully things bounce back like it did last year after a slow start.
Many years ago the greedy Californians had this idea of a pipeline from the Columbia River to California. Anyone who has seen the Columbia River knows there is a shit ton of water flowing into the ocean even after we have dammed the shit out of it and the Snake, and pumped the shit out of it all the way along.
So - go pull your watershed maps and look at how far it is from the Upper Snake (Columbia watershed) to the Green River (Colorado watershed). 50-100 miles maybe? So build a pipeline/canal between the two. Obviously there are mountains in the way. Pump the shit out of it during the rainy season. You could probably apply the same logic to the Salt Lake Basin. Topography is probably better also.
Colorado River - Wikipedia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Columbiarivermap.png
I was hoping that Elon Musk can build a water pipeline underneath to Pahrump and take their water.
Also, the movie Dune is becoming a reality more and more each day..
Also, the movie Dune is becoming a reality more and more each day..
I think you need to study the California Aqueducts and what they're there for, and what they do. This will answer your questions.Many years ago the greedy Californians had this idea of a pipeline from the Columbia River to California. Anyone who has seen the Columbia River knows there is a shit ton of water flowing into the ocean even after we have dammed the shit out of it and the Snake, and pumped the shit out of it all the way along.
So - go pull your watershed maps and look at how far it is from the Upper Snake (Columbia watershed) to the Green River (Colorado watershed). 50-100 miles maybe? So build a pipeline/canal between the two. Obviously there are mountains in the way. Pump the shit out of it during the rainy season. You could probably apply the same logic to the Salt Lake Basin. Topography is probably better also.
Colorado River - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Columbiarivermap.png
There are numerous "solutions". The Snake river, the Great Lakes and the Mississippi. ALL of them are feasible from an engineering point of view but they are almost impossible from an environmental and political standpoint. A Mississippi idea is below. A simple search will show others for almost every large body of fresh water.
www.azfamily.com
Could a water pipeline from the Mississippi River to Arizona be a real solution?
The Arizona state legislature passed a measure in 2021 urging Congress to investigate pumping flood water from the Mississippi River to the Colorado River to bolster its flow.
The California Aqueducts flow into Lake Mead? What?
Seriously, I read a bit about this at your behest. The Colorado River Aqueduct is quite the engineering feat. If they can do that, they can certainly tap the Upper Snake and route water into the Colorado (Green) River and let gravity do the rest?
"Hey Idaho. OK if we suck a bunch of your water out of the Sanke and pop it over the hills into the Colorado so that we can provide water to California? Sounds good? Great. I know how Idaho and California are like bosom buddies. Especially politically. I suppose it will help those whore-mongers in Nevada as well."
Colorado River Aqueduct - Wikipedia
Up in Washington, we tap the Columbia at Grand Coulee Dam and pump it up 280 feet to fill the man-made Banks Lake, which supplies water to zillions of acres of farm/orchard land in Central Washington. Although after all of our illegal farm workers get deported, it will likely be shut down and dry up. Thus even more water for California and Nevada.
Banks Lake - Wikipedia
Hmm. Pumping water over the Continental Divide? OK.... My plan is way simpler and shorter and the Idaho mountains are not as tall.There are numerous "solutions". The Snake river, the Great Lakes and the Mississippi. ALL of them are feasible from an engineering point of view but they are almost impossible from an environmental and political standpoint. A Mississippi idea is below. A simple search will show others for almost every large body of fresh water.
Could a water pipeline from the Mississippi River to Arizona be a real solution?
The Arizona state legislature passed a measure in 2021 urging Congress to investigate pumping flood water from the Mississippi River to the Colorado River to bolster its flow.
Lake Mead is going to go the way of Lake Chad. Nothing is going to reverse this trend unless current conditions magically reverse and ranching stops consuming so much water, but that's not going to happen.
You brought up CA not me. Sorry.The California Aqueducts flow into Lake Mead? What?
Seriously, I read a bit about this at your behest. The Colorado River Aqueduct is quite the engineering feat. If they can do that, they can certainly tap the Upper Snake and route water into the Colorado (Green) River and let gravity do the rest?
"Hey Idaho. OK if we suck a bunch of your water out of the Sanke and pop it over the hills into the Colorado so that we can provide water to California? Sounds good? Great. I know how Idaho and California are like bosom buddies. Especially politically. I suppose it will help those whore-mongers in Nevada as well."
Colorado River Aqueduct - Wikipedia
Up in Washington, we tap the Columbia at Grand Coulee Dam and pump it up 280 feet to fill the man-made Banks Lake, which supplies water to zillions of acres of farm/orchard land in Central Washington. Although after all of our illegal farm workers get deported, it will likely be shut down and dry up. Thus even more water for California and Nevada.
Banks Lake - Wikipedia
Well, we live in a desert. With the “climate change” narrative, maybe it’ll change and we will get some downpours that fill up the lake, right?
If anything, places like Phoenix and Las Vegas are just getting hotter and drier. We probably shouldn't have built major cities in the middle of the desert like that though. At least not ones that have 100+ golf courses
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