Will CA need so much water from Lake Mead moving forward? Does Hoover Dam, dare I say, overflow again someday? (This was wild to see in person).
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Will CA need so much water from Lake Mead moving forward? Does Hoover Dam, dare I say, overflow again someday? (This was wild to see in person).
It's possible, but we're going to need a series of 4-5 years of heavy snow and rainfall up north to make it happen.
I believe the planning for Lake Mead was done during an unusually wet weather period. And here we are.
I get angry when people post about the water crisis, and they post an image of Lake Mead and Las Vegas in order to get people to bash Las Vegas. We aren't the problem. We use very little of the water (.3 MAFY). California uses more than 14 times the amount of water (4.4 MAFY) our state uses. Even New Mexico (.85 MAFY) and Wyoming (1 MAFY) get more water from the Colorado river than we do.
MAFY= million acre-feet per year.
MAFY= million acre-feet per year.
Agreed. Arizona and Cali get way more water than we get.
Climate change. It’ll never fill up. Just kidding. Climate change is the long term crisis scam.
Or we live in a desert and the lake wasn’t going to support over 2M which so much allocated for elsewhere.
I thought we had a Lake Mead/water expert here?
Or we live in a desert and the lake wasn’t going to support over 2M which so much allocated for elsewhere.
I thought we had a Lake Mead/water expert here?
California uses it for alfalfa. Maybe they should try putting water on fires. It’s a known effective measure.
desalination they could do it. I dont know the nuances but im sure it would cost $ ,but long term it would be a HUGE benefit.
Or maybe control the bush and clear it?
What crap do I know.
They have rejected desalination. The contention is the desalination plant raises the salt content in the ocean and could be a hazard to fish and other wildlife.
Only 2 of 13 Desalination plants in CA operable and that's because it's expensive AF. Then factor in delivery.
I did work for SNWA for a few years. LV has the best water delivery system in not only the US, but perhaps the entire world. We literally have people from Brazil and other countries come to learn about what we do and how we do it. I hate to break the news to you, but yer all drinking waste water.
As for Lake Mead. Well. It's pretty much drain Lake Powell. For a few reasons i.e. sandstone.
70% of the water Saudi Arabia uses is from desalination and many other countries also use that process. Nobody has rejected desalination because of any hazards to fish and wildlife
There are actually some pretty cool technologies out there, including a device that uses the ocean waves to generate power. They could probably figure out a way to harness enough ocean power to provide the energy needed to desalinate the water. At least up to a certain point. Not enough to provide for all of LA's needs, but plenty to fill up reservoirs, etc.
First I've heard of it if true. I know they have some crappie in the Lake, so they must have at some point but I don't think they stock them regularly. I could be wrong though.
Las Vegas is also the only basin that returns almost all the water back into the Colorado river through Lake Mead, that is why they get multiple return credits.
I have heard he caught some big ones. That is my favorite fish to eat.
It’s been years, but caught tons of them in the Overton arm.
California state reservoirs are higher than normal. https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain
It's the geniuses in LA that didn't fix and fill the local one for years.
It's the geniuses in LA that didn't fix and fill the local one for years.
Yeah, but every year, they dump a ton of fresh water out of the reservoirs and into the ocean because they don't have enough storage for it when the storms hit. Then they complain that they don't have enough water
"Poseidon’s long-running proposal was supported by Gov. Gavin Newsom but faced ardent opposition from environmentalists who said drawing in large amounts of ocean water and releasing salty discharge back into the ocean would kill billions of tiny marine organisms that make up the base of the food chain along a large swath of the coast.
“The ocean is under attack” from climate change already, Commissioner Dayna Bochco said. “I cannot say in good conscience that this amount of damage is OK.”
Source: AP May 2022
It was probably Bronson Mack, but I'm not sure if he's on here. I know Bronson's little brother was here as well.
My Father in Law is a retired cop now turned farmer. Alfalfa is the worst. Those who own water rights must use their water with risk of it being confiscated so they plant alfalfa because it requires overwatering.
It's a billion dollar industry not just in CA but in AZ. Saudi Arabia has bought thousands of acres in AZ and grows alfalfa with our water just to ship it all to their country. CA Big Business has been doing this for nearly 15 years. And, our water in the form of alfalfa is going to China. They are sucking our water dry and the U.S. lets them. It wouldn't surprise me this isn't going on in other states.
"In Arizona, something even more insane is happening. Saudi Arabian companies are pumping up groundwater from beneath land they have purchased and are using it to grow alfalfa for export to the Middle East. They have no plan for replacing this scarce and finite groundwater that accumulated over thousands of years. Incredibly, Arizona does not regulate groundwater extraction in agricultural areas. California didn’t get serious about groundwater management until 2014 so we deserve some criticism too."
How do we save water: Stop growing alfalfa in Imperial County
Is the California desert the right place to grow alfalfa? It needs a considerable water to sustain this crop for a year.
www.desertsun.com
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I have never caught one in Lake Mead. I didn't know they existed there.
How large can those get? I’ve only ever caught small catfish and mediocre sized rainbow trout.
I had read earlier in the year they approved two in southern Cal. But I think they take a long time to come online.
Nevada could do desalination, but not directly of course since we are landlocked. What we could do is build these plants in Mexico and they can use that water. Nevada then takes Mexico's share of the Colorado River water and banks it for the future. Banking uses either restoration of ground water levels, or increased depth in our reservoirs.
I'm confused. They shout that the melting icecaps dunps fresh water into the ocean, reducing it's salinity, then they cry that desalination will make the ocean to salty?
I heard that they rerouted this melting icecap water to the ocean (from their land). That’s what I’m hopeful about for having CA (and AZ?) take less water from Lake Mead so that it can fill up again.
I’m pretty sure that the drop in Lake Mead is policy-driven.
Confusion is one of the main goals of the Environment Wacko community.
It's probably better to just let those full basins and reservoirs to flood the respective areas annually. Just to prepare for that once in a century or so event, like the one that just happened.
They can’t drain it to keep it at an optimal level? It’s all or nothing? Flooding or bone dry?
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