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Bryce Dejean-Jones has passed

The stories seem a little weird, like something is missing. What I read is that he was shot breaking into an apartment. Why would someone who is rich break into an apartment? Was he on drugs? Is this a lie by the other person trying to covering up a murder? Did he know this person? Or, was he just stupid? Being in Texas it is pretty easy to just shoot anyone who is in your house, but the biggest question is did he really break in, or was he invited in?
 
The stories seem a little weird, like something is missing. What I read is that he was shot breaking into an apartment. Why would someone who is rich break into an apartment? Was he on drugs? Is this a lie by the other person trying to covering up a murder? Did he know this person? Or, was he just stupid? Being in Texas it is pretty easy to just shoot anyone who is in your house, but the biggest question is did he really break in, or was he invited in?
Just read that too. Something doesn't add up. Shame Bryce seemed to sabotage himself at every level. RIP Bryce.
 
By any normal means, yes he is. I can't tell you the amount but based on contract requirements I am sure it is a lot more than most of us make. While all of it wouldn't be guaranteed, a large neough amount would be to make him either rich, or close to rich. This does not include all the side money that NBA players can make through appearance deals, commericials, etc.


http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/fast...gn-bryce-dejean-jones-to-three-year-contract/
 
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It looks like he was trying to get into his x-girlfriends apartment, and picked the wrong unit to breakdown the door. Stupidity cost his life!

It did not take long for Rice to confirm. Dejean-Jones, 23, had been shot to death in Texas. The Dallas police stated Jones broke into an apartment, kicking in the front door and a bedroom door, and a startled resident had grabbed his gun and shot. The apartment owner released a statement indicating Dejean-Jones had been attempting to break into the home of an “estranged acquaintance” — multiple reports indicate it was the mother of his child — but had entered the wrong home.
 
Being in Texas it is pretty easy to just shoot anyone who is in your house
It's never easy to shoot someone but if your house is broken into, your life may be in danger. I can't blame anybody for firing when they may be seconds away from losing their life.

Sounds like Jones was drunk and arrogant (kicking in an ex's door)..... real bad mistake to make. What a shame.
 
The truth is that he has probably been given a free hall pass everywhere that he has gone from high school on every since people figured out he was good at basketball. Learning that you can get away with anything in high school is a bad idea.

Going to college is suppose to help a teenager grow up, instead he kept on doing whatever he wanted no matter how it impacted others. He punched a player at USC. Why was he not arrested? If I was in college and punched another student, I would have been arrested for assault. It also appears he did the same thing at UNLV also punching at another player when he was frustrated. When at Iowa St., and things started falling apart near the end of the season, he was again having problems with other players. Whenever he got in trouble he would just blow it off and move on to the next place.

Now, drunk or not, he decided it was perfectly fine to break down the apartment door and the bedroom door because he thought his girlfriend locked him out. In what world would anyone of us expect anything short of several years in jail for a home invasion whether you know the person or not? Drunk or not any of us would know that would get us thrown in jail.

Now he has paid the price for always getting that free hall pass. Sad!
 
Bryce's death really is sad. Inability to control his temper constantly sabatoged his career and ultimately got him killed in his personal life.

He always struck me as an immature, troubled kid. He was one of my least favorite players while he was here. I often wished Rice wouldn't have taken him. That said, calling the recently deceased names is utterly classless in this instance, and any idiot who calls him a thug should either say what they really mean or STFU. Preferably he latter.
 
You are sending mixed signals. You call him immature in one sentence, and then state that calling the recently deceased names is utterly classless?
 
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You are sending mixed signals. You call him immature in one sentence, and then state that calling the recently deceased names is utterly classless?

His actions displayed clear immaturity. Being honest about that is different than calling him names, especially one that's a common "code word" for something else.
 
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Calling someone immature is calling them a name. I may agree that he is immature, but how is that any less classless than calling him other names. Based on his background he can be called a lot of different names, and a lot of them will fit. What names are you talking about that you consider classless? Based on his past it is not hard to call him a thug, criminal, abusive, etc.. While I may not go onto twitter and say anything, it is really hard to defend a person who has shown time after time that he doesn't follow anyone's rules if he doesn't like them.

High School - was involved in numerous fights
USC - he assult on another player
USC - assult on other student - resident advisor
UNLV - assult on another player
UNLV - suspended for additional unknown offenses
Iowa St. - drug charges
Iowa St. - multiple noise complaints
Iowa St. - fighting with other players
NBA - home invasion, breaking and entry into person home, assult , etc., you call it what you want

If you are talking about the word THUG, it seems to fit!
 
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Calling someone immature is calling them a name.

It's really not. Saying Bryce was immature is an honest assessment of his behavior, not an insult. I'd be surprised if his own family wouldn't admit that he was immature. If anything you can argue that me calling him immature is making an excuse for him, not calling him a name.

Calling him a thug is an insult no matter how you slice it, and for some people "thug" has become the new N word. While I don't think you're using it that way, others may be. It's a bad word to use regardless.
 
 
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I said Richie Incognito was a thug. There are dudes in hockey referred to as thugs and goons.

If somebody would have said Sherman was a punk, the title of that article would have been 'Is punk the new 'N' word'.
 
A thug is a thug and if you do not know the difference wait until someone breaks your door down. Then you can tell them they are immature, and that they should put the gun down, as they put a bullet in your head.

thug
(θʌɡ)
n
1. a tough and violent man, esp a criminal
 
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A thug is a thug and if you do not know the difference wait until someone breaks your door down. Then you can tell them they are immature, and that they should put the gun down, as they put a bullet in your head.

thug
(θʌɡ)
n
1. a tough and violent man, esp a criminal


You're arguing about a dead man. Are you going to protest his funeral with the Westboro Baptist church? Let it go.
 
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A thug is a thug and if you do not know the difference wait until someone breaks your door down.

I like a lot of what you post but this is just weird.

I never even said he wasn't a thug, just that I think calling him one is classless. I chose to call him immature, which was, I think, a more measured and sensitive approach. Different strokes perhaps.

Call him whatever you want if it makes you feel better, but kindly lighten up on the "wait until someone breaks your door down" crap.
 
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Great. I have. Since this was buried in one of my links I'll pull it out. I have little interest in arguing the point further so it will be my last post on the topic. People can take from it what they will.

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Linguist John McWhorter, a professor at Columbia University, is one of the most perceptive interpreters of the American language. He’s written about Creole tongues, profanity and race relations for much of his career. In the spring he got tangled in controversy when he spoke of the new racial connotations of the word “thug.”

You spoke a few months ago about the way the term “thug” was serving as code for a kind of dangerous black man. Do you hear anything operating that way these days?

Boy, did I catch hell from that. I don’t think I’ve ever been more misunderstood. Usually I get kicked by the left, because I’m supposed to be a black person who says, “Calm down.” But this time, everyone hated me because they thought I was saying, “Every time you say the word 'thug,' you’re saying n*gger,” which was not what I meant.

The term "thug," which refers to certain outbreaks of violence, is used more when people are black than when they are white. There’s a sense that "thug" means not just a person breaking windows, and is uncouth, but is a certain black archetype. It’s not only white people who have created it -- black popular culture has created the idea of the thug as someone you have a grudging affection for. This was something enshrined by older rap iconography… There’s a little of this in “The Wire.” It’s taken on a certain racialized meaning… “A certain kind of black person is up to that again.”

Words have many shades and meanings as they move through time. But this is one of them – it’s become a racialized term.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...we’d-never-see-donald-trump-again”/ar-BBlHelj
 
The sad thing is all of this is that there is now a childless father that will have little to no memories of his father. If you believe in that sort of thing, offer prayers for the family and especially the child.

This is a sad story. But given his violance, the memory of his father might be better than having him around. Like someone else posted, what would have happened to his mother had he kicked in the right door.

This is all pretty shocking none the least. Another person's life that ended short from self destructive behavior.
 
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Great. I have. Since this was buried in one of my links I'll pull it out. I have little interest in arguing the point further so it will be my last post on the topic. People can take from it what they will.

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Linguist John McWhorter, a professor at Columbia University, is one of the most perceptive interpreters of the American language. He’s written about Creole tongues, profanity and race relations for much of his career. In the spring he got tangled in controversy when he spoke of the new racial connotations of the word “thug.”

You spoke a few months ago about the way the term “thug” was serving as code for a kind of dangerous black man. Do you hear anything operating that way these days?

Boy, did I catch hell from that. I don’t think I’ve ever been more misunderstood. Usually I get kicked by the left, because I’m supposed to be a black person who says, “Calm down.” But this time, everyone hated me because they thought I was saying, “Every time you say the word 'thug,' you’re saying n*gger,” which was not what I meant.

The term "thug," which refers to certain outbreaks of violence, is used more when people are black than when they are white. There’s a sense that "thug" means not just a person breaking windows, and is uncouth, but is a certain black archetype. It’s not only white people who have created it -- black popular culture has created the idea of the thug as someone you have a grudging affection for. This was something enshrined by older rap iconography… There’s a little of this in “The Wire.” It’s taken on a certain racialized meaning… “A certain kind of black person is up to that again.”

Words have many shades and meanings as they move through time. But this is one of them – it’s become a racialized term.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/cuckservatives-libtards-and-the-obscenities-of-angry-white-men-“if-he’d-called-megyn-kelly-a-bitch-we’d-never-see-donald-trump-again”/ar-BBlHelj


I don't want to jack the thread and turn this into one about political correctness.

However, what was I supposed to take from that article?

That is/was his experience not mine. It has not been my experience the word thug has any other connotation other than a person who is involved in violent, bullying or criminal behavior. Race was not a factor. I have heard people use the term 'punk' just as often. Is this now offensive?
 
Unfortunately we are debating the legacy of this person's character. Unfortunately for him it wasn't that great of legacy to the public's eye. I'm sure for just as much destruction he has caused for himself and others he has loved and touched others just as much. That's just how passionate people are. They are both ends of the spectrum. It's just sad that he never learned how to control his mind and subsequent actions.
 
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