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Can any of these guys recruit? Wilkins kind of strange that his only decent jobs were with Pastner. One year with Vandy and assume he was fired since no one goes from there to directional Texas.
 
Can any of these guys recruit? Wilkins kind of strange that his only decent jobs were with Pastner. One year with Vandy and assume he was fired since no one goes from there to directional Texas.
Not can any of these guys recruit? Rather can any of these guys convince boosters to support some recruits with additional NIL $$?
 
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The only recruiting that matters is the NIL. Its all about the NIL….
I agree at some level but at UNLV’s current level it is talent identification is way more important. Look at the FAU squad from the final four most of the key players key contributors in the elite eight at different schools. None of the kids were even four stars out of high schools. Walter Clayton Jr 0 stars before going to Iona. Talent identification is super important in the NIL era if you can’t spend and then we would need to find a way to keep them. But also with many programs only looking at transfers there are a lot of better players are being under recruited as the P4 is looking to pick them up after they prove themselves.
 
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It’s transfer portal and NIL money now!

Recruiting like we remember is gone!

The recruiting of transfer portal players is typically 3 weeks, recruiting players in the past was years of effort and now that has been reduced!

Recruiting high school kids will still take place I’m sure but the transfer portal takes priority now, you can go from “zero to hero” in one year with the right moves, and I believe Josh is up to the task!
 
Except not everyone gets NIL or at least not large amounts. I imagine there are a ton of players at our level who will get a small amount that still have to be "recruited." Where 30 schools are offering the same $50K or so.
They have to get some guidelines to save the game. Cap limit?? It think the best thing they can do is grant more eligibility so the talent is more spread out. Especially for the non P-4 schools. So maybe a player will stay another year or transfer to one once they play their 4 years at a p-4 school. I dont see how this can keep up.
 
There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future. Old school recruiting will matter again. Pastner surrounding himself with strong Xs and Os coach is very smart with him being such an elite recruiter and it being mostly about NIL the next few years
 
There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future. Old school recruiting will matter again. Pastner surrounding himself with strong Xs and Os coach is very smart with him being such an elite recruiter and it being mostly about NIL the next few years
IF old school recruiting matters again, I have much more confidence in how well Pastner can fare here. If it’s going to be heavily NIL slanted, best we can hope for is to be a USU. Yeah, sounds good right now with where we have been. But I’ve been around along to know that it’ll briefly satiate fans. It’ll make for fun regular seasons (very important), MWCT tournaments (very important) and making the dance (most important). But if you get 3 years in a row of an 11 seed and you’re done round one … like I said, been around long enough … fans will not be happy … people sometimes forget, key boosters and a lot of fans flipped on LK over his last three years …. NIT, one and done, one and done … and after his first two years (NITs) people were already questioning. Kevin saved his bacon with the S16 and the following year was fine, we won one, then lost. But then came three bland years. In the end, I’m saying that wasn’t good enough for a large enough segment of the fanbase to put some heat on. He wasn’t safe here at that time. I don’t think Livengood would have pounced at that time, tbh. He’d have given him another year as make or break, imo.
 
Pastner addressed recruiting the portal and having a good understanding or at least strong ideas of what it takes to do so. I think the coach should get a chance to implement his ideas on things. Who knows when or how things will be with NIL, that’s all guesswork but Josh has got ideas, it’s some of the reason why he wanted back in to coaching and I’m curious to see his game plan take shape.

As long as the transfer portal is a thing, recruiting as we knew it will be gone. Recruiting the portal is money with much less salesmanship, period!
 
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There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future. Old school recruiting will matter again. Pastner surrounding himself with strong Xs and Os coach is very smart with him being such an elite recruiter and it being mostly about NIL the next few years
"There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future."

How will this be? What court will make the ruling?

NIL is a direct response to the O’Bannon v. NCAA case in 2019. It resulted in a federal court ruling that the NCAA’s amateurism rules violated antitrust laws and allowed college athletes to be paid for their image. States quickly came into line to make sure their athletes would get paid and they wouldn't be left out. To cap a college athlete would be the same as telling Pat Mahomes he could only make a given amount of money for his commercials. Can't and won't be done.
 
I think many fans have Dom Perignon taste, but unfortunately we’re on a Old Milwaukee budget.
No doubt... But you can still build an NCAA tournament roster with that kind of budget..
I never got the fascination with "can he recruit" as a requirement for a program that has gotten 4 and 5 star recruits and transfer in the past decade and done absolutely nothing with them. Yes, we need "high level talent" to win a National championship- but maybe before aiming for a sweet 16 in year 1 we aim for just making the tournament...
 
I cant speak to the law specifics but most coaches think this is the last year of wide open NIL. With roster caps and revenue sharing coming down from the House settlement, the payment to players via school will be limited. Now can a player get money outside the school possibly but there might be more stringent requirement to make sure the NiL is representing the work done. Nobody is sure how that will work. Larger schools will have more revenue to share but it will not be wide open.

This is why every athlete in almost all sports is looking to transfer if they have any value. This is the last chance of full free agency in many coaches and agents minds.

 
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I cant speak to the law specifics but most coaches think this is the last year of wide open NIL. With roster caps and revenue sharing coming down from the House settlement, the payment to players via school will be limited. Now can a player get money outside the school possibly but there might be more stringent requirement to make sure the NiL is representing the work done. Nobody is sure how that will work. Larger schools will have more revenue to share but it will not be wide open.

This is why every athlete in almost all sports is looking to transfer if they have any value. This is the last chance of full free agency in many coaches and agents minds.

NIL and Revenue sharing are two completely separate issues. The article conflates them.

Revenue sharing will eventually be finalized by the Federal Legislative process. People compare the NFL and NBA with their versions of salary caps to College ball. Pro ball Caps are controlled by government by waiving antitrust rules in favor of collective bargaining by a players union and team owners. Something like this will happen for revenue sharing in the NCAA. Only the Lord know how bargaining will happen.

But NIL is paying a specific athlete for his picture or his endorsement. Pro Athletes do this all the time. Take Pat MaHomes as an example. He makes $ 56 mil from his Kansas City pay and $ 21 Mil from likeness and endorsements. The same will hold true for college athletes. They will make their capped revenue sharing and their uncapped endorsement fees.
 
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This is the new reality for UNLV. For the first time in 50 years or since 1975, all teams making the sweet 16 come from power conferences. But even the 1975 time frame has to kept in perspective. 1975 was when the ncaa expanded from 16 to 32 teams. Not 68 like today. Mid-majors have become a farm system for power-conference programs.

 
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Again, I don't think just NIL was the reason behind the lack of Cinderella.. I think that's the media not taking responsibility for the over seeding of the SEC to justify their 14 teams in the tournament. Because they pushed a 14 team SEC, they ended up seeding teams that were better than their records indicated against smaller schools and pushed the mid-major darlings into rows where they had no chance to survive. Then you compile under achieving teams like UCONN and Gonzaga being seeded in the middle of the pack it just made things even more stretched.. Yes, NIL has been a big conversation point because of the $ spent by the teams remaining and left in the S16 field, but it also had to do with TV partnerships pushing the SEC narrative and getting that many teams into the tournament.
 
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This is the new reality for UNLV. For the first time in 50 years or since 1975, all teams making the sweet 16 come from power conferences. But even the 1975 time frame has to kept in perspective. 1975 was when the ncaa expanded from 16 to 32 teams. Not 68 like today.

I agree things are changing, and outside the power league, teams are at a big disadvantage for sure, though I am not going to let one season be a definitive moment that we are totally screwed. In a down MW year, we nearly had 2 teams make it to the S16, one was closer than the other, but neither team seemed outmatched in those 2nd round games.

But recruiting needs to be smart. We cannot simply just find the best available guys. We need to find guys that fit exactly what this staff wants to do offensively and defensively, with a balanced roster that will fit well together. Stay away from too much redundancy but you need quality depth.

Recruiting to fit may get dudes that will be overlooked by other teams.

Also we have to find those hidden gems as well.

But for sure there will be a degree of moneyball going on.
 
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They have to get some guidelines to save the game. Cap limit?? It think the best thing they can do is grant more eligibility so the talent is more spread out. Especially for the non P-4 schools. So maybe a player will stay another year or transfer to one once they play their 4 years at a p-4 school. I dont see how this can keep up.
Yep I agree and if not the big schools will kill off the sport.
 
"There’s going to be some kind of cap for NIL in the near future."

How will this be? What court will make the ruling?

NIL is a direct response to the O’Bannon v. NCAA case in 2019. It resulted in a federal court ruling that the NCAA’s amateurism rules violated antitrust laws and allowed college athletes to be paid for their image. States quickly came into line to make sure their athletes would get paid and they wouldn't be left out. To cap a college athlete would be the same as telling Pat Mahomes he could only make a given amount of money for his commercials. Can't and won't be done.
No idea. I have read it will be capped or large changes coming soon. Not a lawyer.
 
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