A offer to who??
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I guess we are who we thought we were, a G5 with no NIL money!
Maybe the plan is to recruit the best of the rest and develop and coach them up, once they are here? If so the guys being considered might be mundane do to the level they are coming up from or they will have Donovan Williams type of production from their previous schools!
Once again, half this forum wanted buckyball and we’re literally recruiting the same type of guys he’s after.
I thought coach JP’s strong suit was recruiting (I know it’s not coaching). This is already feeling like a disaster hire (sorry for the negativity, just saying). Not looking good for this season, guess we’ll see
It may or may not be true that he has an offer from UNLV, but I don't take much credence in what is posted by an account on twitter with a few thousand followers. Hell, before I was kicked off twitter I had about 75K followers, and I was a nobody!
can we relax a bit? This is the first kid I’ve seen us offer with a list like this. Striking out left and right is insane too. Name who we have been recruiting that committed elsewhere? He got what he wanted though and pissed off half the board.
It’s been a little over a week so no need to panic, it’s not like it’s the middle of May and there’s no commitments?
But I do think the thought of anyone bringing high level commits here was a pipe dream! You must have NIL money to sign the bigger names and it looks like we don’t have that and it will be guys like the Henley and Bedford types coming here and getting them coached up, will be the plan!
But I do think the thought of anyone bringing high level commits here was a pipe dream! You must have NIL money to sign the bigger names and it looks like we don’t have that and it will be guys like the Henley and Bedford types coming here and getting them coached up, will be the plan!
Everyone was crying last week that JP was slow and not moving quick enough to get staff in place, literally the next day or two he’s got a staff.
Will give a few weeks before worrying about recruiting. End of April and our list is filled with guys like this then yeah welcome to panic town.
LOL, I'm not saying you're wrong, but he hasn't even signed anyone yet other than the previous commits, right? We at least need to see who he gets before we complain too much about recruiting.
We likely will win no recruiting battles vs mid to upper p4 targets anymore as we will get outbid. We have to look for p4 bench guys we think have some promise and get lucky they thrive in a larger role. Like Donovan Williams.
P4 bench players will also be tough to get. Nearly every P4 program has committed to spending the entire allowed $20 million revenue sharing on players this year. We can't compete with that - not nearly.
Yeah if every school is going to spend $20MM a year on NIL for basketball then we might as well resign ourselves to suckdom.
The $ 20 million revenue sharing is above and beyond NIL. The P4 schools will be aggressively spending on both.
You do realize that the MWC had 4 teams make the NCAA tournament and none of them spent 20 million dollars to do so....
What is needed is a realignment of expectations. Where UNLV NIL budget gets us is into the tournament, that's the goal and should be considered a success each year. Winning beyond that is up to coaching and player development within the budget we have.
Sure but is that sustainable? If teams are now spending $20MM ON TOP of the NIL then the chances for that happening in the future are drastically reduced. I agree getting there should be the goal but I think we will be getting there the same way that Radford, Bryant and similar schools get there, not how UNM got there.
It’s also a dead period until the 10th for transfers. Pastner needs like 10 new players too and they all won’t be starters. Don’t let this guy work you up.
This article is relevant to the above, very little of that $20MM is going to work its way to basketball. If South Carolina is directing the vast majority of it to football only I am sure others will follow https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...all-why-am-i-going-to-lose-another-2-million/
I believe the initial ruling was that the colleges were going to need to spread it out amongst all of the sports at a particular school, but that ruling was challenged. If it's truly profit sharing, then only sports that make a profit should be sharing that money, or at the very least, allow the schools to decide how to distribute it.
RELAX EVERYONE. LET'S SEE WHO WE GET BEFORE WE PANIC. TARK PULLED SOME GEMS FROM JC. ARMEN GILLIAM WAS A NOBODY WHEN WE GOT HIM. SOME JC PLAYERS GET VALUABLE PLAYING TIME AT A JC INSTEAD OF SITTING ON THE BENCH AS A FRESHMAN. IF BARNABIE PLAYED AT JC LAST YEAR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN SITTING BEHIND PAPE AND BEAR.
I agree and think that is how it will end up in the long run. Water ballet shouldn't be participating in profit sharing when there are no profits to be had.
Revenue sharing and it's implications to NCAA sports is not generally understood.
Revenue sharing is the result of a court case. The case allows up to $ 20 mil per University to be split to existing athletes. As of today there has been no mandate on how revenue needs to be split.
The initial date for the first distributions in this coming July 1st. Most schools are not planning to distribute equally to each athlete but are planning to split the majority to the sports bringing in revenue. Most P4 are set to follow something like the Texas Tech's model. Texas Tech announced in December 2024 a plan to distribute about 74% to football, 17–18% to men’s basketball, 2% to women’s basketball, 1.9% to baseball, and the rest to other sports, mirroring their revenue contributions. This would mean a $ 3.5 mil payment to Mens BB players. $ 270,000 per player if split equally. ( this is why it will be difficult to lure away P4 bench players)
An interesting aside are teams in conferences that don't have football but do bring in relatively large income from BB (think Villanove, Big East, Gonzaga - PAC , Grand Canyon - MW). They will be able to go much larger to BB - say 75% to men's BB. If they have the $ 20 mil that will mean $1.15 mill per player before NIL. With that they'll be able to lure the best players from around the world.
I've heard zero on UNLV plans along this subject. It would seem to me we have no funds for this.
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If it goes to the point where you must be in a major conference to be competitive in the NCAA, why should a booster want to put money into basketball? Paying a six figure salary or higher to a player that has zero chance of ever playing professional is beyond ludicrous!
Just an aside from a former NCAA referee, these games in the latest season have shown the effects poor non calls have on the outcome of a game. Differences between charge and no charge, offensive elbowing by the dribbler are pandemic, the defense has no defense because the offense can knock them over at any time. Smaller schools like UNM and CSU and larger schools like Gonzaga and U Conn were jobbed by chosen refs to make sure the ESPN, CBS teams make it to the finals.
Why can't 20 casinos give 1 million each! This should not be that hard in vegas!
Because they're all owned by like 3 corporations with boards who have 0 connection to UNLV... what's the financial incentive to a corporation to "donate" to UNLV athletics. UNLVs long term future is in local interest and investment in its programs, not selling half a stadium to away fans. There's what 3 million people in Vegas now? We need 40-45 thousand of them to regularly invest in UNLV much more than a corporation and visitors. If 5% of the valley cared about UNLV athletics regularly that would sell out the Mack and Allegiant regularly...
"We need 40-45 thousand of them to regularly invest in UNLV"
This is the way Houtson has structured much of it's NIL payments.
5% of the valley donating 100 bucks a year is roughly 15 million per year... that's where the money really is
If NIL was a thing back in the 70s and 80s Tark would have won 6 or 10 national titles with the backing of the casinos. Now? They're soulless entities run by accountants and algorithms. Good luck getting them to put up a dime.
Casinos, for the most part, aren’t going to donate heavily to anything that might pull bodies or put eyeballs anywhere away from their business.
This is the way it’s been for 100 years.
Sure, the Fertitta’s broke that tradition but good luck getting Caesars and MGM to buck their trend.
I forgot about him. But he helped because Chambers was here. Those two were tight when we were in high school.
Jerry Colangelo dumps boat loads of cash into GCU. I'd like to see Mark Davis do the same for UNLV. $ 3 mil a year wouldn't touch him but it would make a giant difference to UNLV BB. Same for Bill Foley - his team is responsible for probably 3000 less fans per game - he should show some penance and give our BB team a couple of mill of love.
GCU is a private Christian university... he didn't dump cash just because he wants to see GCU flourish...
Billionaires don't have habits of throwing cash at things they have little connection too.. Id prefer Foley step up and help UNLV hockey get into D1... as for Mark Davis, in his mind, he's already allowing us to play in his stadium and he gave athletics money on top of it...
