Women’s Golf

[Doneoett]

The Women’s team is playing in the NCAA Championship but
UNLV was playing without its best player. Toa Yokoyama, ranked 63rd in the nation and the anchor of a senior-heavy team, opted to turn professional on the eve of the tournament and is instead playing in the Epson Tour event in Hurricane, Utah, this week.
She really couldn’t wait a week? They all worked hard for this moment and she abandoned her teammates. UGH

 

[rebswin2]

Yeah like all of those “foreigner” football players that sit out their bowl games…

 

[Rebel1986]

Yeah like all of those “foreigner” football players that sit out their bowl games…

The difference is at least their parents pay taxes in the US, while foreign athletes do not pay one penny towards an education which is covered by UNLV if they are on a full scholarship! As for the football players that skip bowl games, maybe they should pay for their own schooling if they do not meet their obligations?

 

[RebelScrub]

UNLV prefers foreign students over regular USCitizens. Those foreign students are loaded

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

Pretty tacky. At least football players could be avoiding a potential career ending injury, not so with golf. That said football players opting out is BS also.

 

[Couev]

So, I think my initial reaction to this was a little grumpy and decided to do a little research into the why would she skip the tour. before I got my tar, feathers, and pitchfork. It honestly makes sense if her goal is to play professionally:

1. The Epson tour is the easiest way for a new pro to get their LPGA tour card.
2. It starts in February and has 20 events throughout the year. These can't be made up.
3. Amateurs can only enter if given a sponsor's exception, which are not always offered from event to event. It's a limited time offer you almost have to take.
4. Refusal of sponsor's exceptions can eliminate a golfer from future sponsor's exceptions.
5. She had completed the graduation process with everything short of commencement completing her scholarship obligation to the university, meaning her scholarship obligation had been fulfilled.
6. If you can get a sponsor's exception and you perform well you can earn points to get your LPGA tour card as well as making actual physical cash.
7. She had already received another exception during an off week and had played in one other tournament. She had missed 25% of the available tournaments.
8. Bad news for her is she's missed two day 2 cuts and got no prize money nor chase for the card points.
9. There are several other high profile women's golfers who opted out under the same program every year.


So for me, this actually makes more sense from a professional athlete paradigm than skipping a bowl game or entering the transfer portal mid-season. Maybe if we had a better NIL package for our women's golf team she sticks around. I'm not saying you can't be annoyed or disappointed, but this is a symptom of the system in place with college athletics and not really anything to blame the athlete for in my humble opinion.

 

[Rebel1986]

So, I think my initial reaction to this was a little grumpy and decided to do a little research into the why would she skip the tour. before I got my tar, feathers, and pitchfork. It honestly makes sense if her goal is to play professionally:

1. The Epson tour is the easiest way for a new pro to get their LPGA tour card.
2. It starts in February and has 20 events throughout the year. These can't be made up.
3. Amateurs can only enter if given a sponsor's exception, which are not always offered from event to event. It's a limited time offer you almost have to take.
4. Refusal of sponsor's exceptions can eliminate a golfer from future sponsor's exceptions.
5. She had completed the graduation process with everything short of commencement completing her scholarship obligation to the university, meaning her scholarship obligation had been fulfilled.
6. If you can get a sponsor's exception and you perform well you can earn points to get your LPGA tour card as well as making actual physical cash.
7. She had already received another exception during an off week and had played in one other tournament. She had missed 25% of the available tournaments.
8. Bad news for her is she's missed two day 2 cuts and got no prize money nor chase for the card points.
9. There are several other high profile women's golfers who opted out under the same program every year.


So for me, this actually makes more sense from a professional athlete paradigm than skipping a bowl game or entering the transfer portal mid-season. Maybe if we had a better NIL package for our women's golf team she sticks around. I'm not saying you can't be annoyed or disappointed, but this is a symptom of the system in place with college athletics and not really anything to blame the athlete for in my humble opinion.

Then have her pay back with interest all cost for her to go to UNLV for this year as a penalty like any other student would have had to pay to go to school at UNLV.

 

[Couev]

Then have her pay back with interest all cost for her to go to UNLV for this year as a penalty like any other student would have had to pay to go to school at UNLV.

So, the plan is to seek legal recourse based on her opting out of a post-season competition which falls after she graduated, with no language to support that legal remedy in any scholarship format, the first of such a case in the history of college athletics. First of all, we'd be paying her legal fees as their council just buried us, probably would have to pay a countersuit for frivolous litigation. Once that big six figures cost and loss happened happened the good news is we would never again attract a pro level athlete again. "Why would you go there, they'll try and sue you if you pursue your vocation" is the new counter-recruiting pitch for everyone.

I don't want to tell you that you can't feel jaded and jilted by the women's golfer who you never mentioned before today to the point where your rage boils up and you want to sue her. You're an adult and allowed to process this devastating bit of news you got about your most favorite and supported UNLV program however you need to do so. I would argue that it's not logical, reasonable, or actionable at any level.

 

[Rebel1986]

So, the plan is to seek legal recourse based on her opting out of a post-season competition which falls after she graduated, with no language to support that legal remedy in any scholarship format, the first of such a case in the history of college athletics. First of all, we'd be paying her legal fees as their council just buried us, probably would have to pay a countersuit for frivolous litigation. Once that big six figures cost and loss happened happened the good news is we would never again attract a pro level athlete again. "Why would you go there, they'll try and sue you if you pursue your vocation" is the new counter-recruiting pitch for everyone.

I don't want to tell you that you can't feel jaded and jilted by the women's golfer who you never mentioned before today to the point where your rage boils up and you want to sue her. You're an adult and allowed to process this devastating bit of news you got about your most favorite and supported UNLV program however you need to do so. I would argue that it's not logical, reasonable, or actionable at any level.

Funny how you turn my opinion into a court case so that you can talk out of your ass! Where did I ask for them to take her to court or to sue her? You really are coming across as a retarded douche.

 

[Doneoett]

It was for the National Championship. The Epson Tour event has been scheduled for awhile, so why wait until the day before NCAA final.

 

[Couev]

Funny how you turn my opinion into a court case so that you can talk out of your ass! Where did I ask for them to take her to court or to sue her? You really are coming across as a retarded douche.

So lets see if we can break this down:

Your opinion was to ask for a private citizen to return funding and interest to a public institution without a pre-existing contract in place spelling out those terms. How do you think that occurs? She just reads your angry post on Rivals and writes a check? So either your opinion is just your fantasy based on how you think the world works or it is just a vapid take with no forethought. I had assumed you were inferring legal action because it was the only way to make your scenario happen.

But I'll trust you if you think I'm coming across as a retarded douche and apologize. That is your culture, after all!

 

[Couev]

It was for the National Championship. The Epson Tour event has been scheduled for awhile, so why wait until the day before NCAA final.

I don't have an answer to that so I'd just be theorizing. My gut tells me that she accepted the sponsor's invitation prior to UNLV qualifying for the national championship (wasn't settled until 5/7). So refusing the sponsor's invitation at that point could end up with her not getting more for the rest of the season.