Some Interesting things related to realignment and the MWC / Pac2

[Meister_Rebel]

I found this article interesting. Gives some insight into what Gloria Nevarez is thinking and other stuff regarding realignment. I like the part about giving the boot to schools that won't commit in terms of budget.

Does San Diego State, Mountain West fit into Pac-2’s plans?

‘There are so many different scenarios’ swirling in college athletics, SDSU athletic director says

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

 

[Rosegreen1]

Not a fan of the commish she is not forward thinking and got played by two schools in the PNW. Sad!

 

[Gator 82]

Arrogance is what killed the PAC 12 and arrogance is what is going to comeback and bite WSU and OSU in the ass if they’re not careful. Navarez and the MWC need to hold strong and stand together because despite what the P12 leftovers believe, the MWC holds all the cards.

 

[Meister_Rebel]

The article said something that I thought was wrong. I thought the poach penalty (Withdrawal Fees) ended August 1, 2025 because they did not extend the scheduling agreement for the second year. In studying the Agreement I was wrong and they were right. Article 7 does say that the withdrawal fees do apply for 2 years following the termination of the Agreement.

Holy shyt. OSU and WSU are screwed if they try to take any of our programs earlier than the August 1. 2027 date.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Much like the portal, trying to figure out how much eligibility a player has with a Covid year, NIL and realignment this makes my head hurt.

I almost long for a much simpler time when coaches and writers voted on who the national champion was and then we argued about that until the next season.

 

[Rosegreen1]

Arrogance is what killed the PAC 12 and arrogance is what is going to comeback and bite WSU and OSU in the ass if they’re not careful. Navarez and the MWC need to hold strong and stand together because despite what the P12 leftovers believe, the MWC holds all the cards.

Not really, who wants to join a conference that pays peanuts?

Unlv gets 3 million dollar share for media rights. Peanuts!

The commish herself has repeatedly labeled MW a G5, it’s not going to attract OSU and Wazzu.


They have a lot of options, merging with the MW is not one of them. It’s cost prohibitive for them.

 

[Gator 82]

Not really, who wants to join a conference that pays peanuts?

Unlv gets 3 million dollar share for media rights. Peanuts!

The commish herself has repeatedly labeled MW a G5, it’s not going to attract OSU and Wazzu.


They have a lot of options, merging with the MW is not one of them. It’s cost prohibitive for them.

I guess they’re holding out for that management position. I get what you’re saying, but there’s a reason they were left behind and it has everything to do with their market share. The analogy of lipstick on a pig comes to mind.

 

[Rosegreen1]

The article said something that I thought was wrong. I thought the poach penalty (Withdrawal Fees) ended August 1, 2025 because they did not extend the scheduling agreement for the second year. In studying the Agreement I was wrong and they were right. Article 7 does say that the withdrawal fees do apply for 2 years following the termination of the Agreement.

Holy shyt. OSU and WSU are screwed if they try to take any of our programs earlier than the August 1. 2027 date.

OSU and Wazzu are sitting on a pile of cash and assets from the previous pac-12 iteration.

IMO, they are gaming it out right now. They have cultivated some media partnerships (CW). Probably 4 schools from MW they are eyeballing along with others in parts of the country. The ACC is going to be the domino that determines the next moves.

They aren’t going to join the MW, they overpaid us to help out this year but going forward they are going to try and play p4 teams.

 

[LVRebel2000]

OSU and Wazzu are sitting on a pile of cash and assets from the previous pac-12 iteration.

IMO, they are gaming it out right now. They have cultivated some media partnerships (CW). Probably 4 schools from MW they are eyeballing along with others in parts of the country. The ACC is going to be the domino that determines the next moves.

They aren’t going to join the MW, they overpaid us to help out this year but going forward they are going to try and play p4 teams.

Exactly. If the ACC blows up, likely the Big12 or other conferences will look to scoop up some of the top programs and maybe OSU/WSU can be included in that. For example, if the Big12 goes to 24 teams, as well as the SEC and Big10 (B1G), there would essentially be 3 super-conferences, and everyone else would be in the G7 or whatever it looks like when the dust settles.

Currently, the SEC has 16 teams,
the Big 10 has 18 teams and
the Big 12 has 16 teams.

So in the event that they form 3 super conferences, there would probably be some spots available but the number would depend on how big each conference agreed to be. I'm sure that Notre Dame would take one of those spots, so it would be a mad scramble after that. OSU/WSU would like to be in that picture, and I believe to an extent, they will be

 

[Rosegreen1]

I guess they’re holding out for that management position. I get what you’re saying, but there’s a reason they were left behind and it has everything to do with their market share. The analogy of lipstick on a pig comes to mind.

And YBU didn’t stick around after TCU/Utah bolted. Took awhile but look at them now.

The MWC has a similar problem as the old WAC, too much dead weight, bottom feeders. OSU and Wazzu are going to probably poach schools. Especially if they have a great media partner. It was a great move by them to get the CW partnership and CW also has relationships with the ACC.

Best case scenario is ACC falls apart, they form an East/west conference. Whether or not it’s called the PAC or something else, who knows. It’s likely the remaining schools wil get a payout/settlement similar to what OSU and Wazzu got. Maybe more, and you’ll have a few schools sitting on a pile of cash and assets.

The MW is very vulnerable.

 

[rebneck]

Oh, for the days of Bud Wilkinson and Ara Parseghian, with Keith Jackson on the call, eh, @Bullmastiff1? Whoa, Nellie! Only with us still growed up and not in small school oblivion.

 

[dcut03]

OSU and Wazzu are sitting on a pile of cash and assets from the previous pac-12 iteration.

IMO, they are gaming it out right now. They have cultivated some media partnerships (CW). Probably 4 schools from MW they are eyeballing along with others in parts of the country. The ACC is going to be the domino that determines the next moves.

They aren’t going to join the MW, they overpaid us to help out this year but going forward they are going to try and play p4 teams.

I think part of the reason they didn't renew the deal is to save some money for possible poaching. Why pay the MW for more than a 1 mil per game right now? They can try a quasi independent scheduling route next season.

I do think their first choice is to be picked up by the Big 12 or 10. That seems somewhat unlikely, though the Big 12 needs to raise their football profile. Both OSU and WAZZU are looking pretty good right now. We will see how they fair against the MW this season.

But if they are not picked up, which is the most likely, then they may try to rebuild. Keeping things relatively thin at 8-10 teams. Just to maximize payouts more than anything else. Also leaves room for some possible available teams if the ACC blows up, or some other fallout.

 

[bcvegaspt2]

I've always thought that our biggest error was in not selling our souls to ESPN. B-Whine-U did when they went independent and ESPN saw their value and got them into the B12.

I'm well aware that we don't have the national following that they do, just thinking that ESPN could have helped.