SMU to pay $36,000 per player in Football
- Thread starter 220reb
- Start date
Is that at all related to the players scholarships and stipends? Or totally separate?
Haven’t seen the contracts but almost assuredly separate.
There are no rules. The money can come from anywhere in any amounts. 99% of these players will make more money in college then they will ever see professionally!
SMU looking to get back to the Eric Dickerson glory days. Did not end well for them last time
Yeah, but with the Pandoras box of legal payments wide open, it makes illegal payments even easier, imo.
And I don’t blame SMU, tbh. We are in an era where lawlessness isn’t frowned upon nearly as much … may as well go for it, imo.
It sucks, man. Hard work, commitment … the things that used to be considered admirable attributes … they don’t get the job done alone. The system is set up so the rich get richer and the lesser drop down a notch or two.
It’s all around us. It’s hard to break through it.
True, Joe, but as a guy who can remember Truman in real life, and has studied politics and history, sad to say, it is not new.
Privilege has always ruled.
University of Minnesota athletes were getting extra benefits in 1961, I know for sure. And they weren't Notre Dame.
Privilege has always ruled.
University of Minnesota athletes were getting extra benefits in 1961, I know for sure. And they weren't Notre Dame.
36,000? That's it?
Anybody here ever watch the ESPN 30 for 30 The Pony Excess about the Eric Dickerson/Craig James SMU teams that got SMU the NCAA death sentence? (Its fantastic by the way) Anyway this took place what 30 years ago? And SMU bag men were buying players for sums pretty close to that if not more.
Difference now it's all out in the open.
Again great documentary well worth the watch..
I smell salary cap! That's a guarantee college will follow the NFL model.
I don't there will be a salary, because I don't the NCAA will every be able to regulate this.
I do think that the market will start to calm down. Its not very economically sustainable. Even if college athletes become spokepeople for larger companies. They will never have the national appeal of a pro athlete that has proven themselves at the highest level.
So these players will give minimal ROI. I can't see so many players be given millions of dollars every year. A handful? Maybe. But this will die down some over time. It's the wild west right now.
The NFL has a salary cap but this is not a salary. Universities are not paying these players. It’s individuals through businesses that are paying these players for their name and image. NFL players get unlimited money for their name and image. I don’t think the slows down at all.
This!
And I think it’s time we join the party!
The only problem is, we don't have any money. Well, the city does, but if this whole NLI thing is outside of the school jurisdiction, you need some donors to get involved, and an organizer who can make it all come together. Bring back DJ Allen as overseer of NLI
Last edited:
We currently have a strong network for NIL. There are things beyond their control in certain situations, though.
Can you expand on that, even if just vaguely? Are you talking about in raising money? In offering it to players? In how the school and coaches can interact with the NIL group?
Maybe more donors will show when more folks buy tickets instead of complaining.
Not trying to criticize posters, but pointing out that donors may not want to contribute when the seats are empty.
If I won't pay $20, why should someone give millions?
Not trying to criticize posters, but pointing out that donors may not want to contribute when the seats are empty.
If I won't pay $20, why should someone give millions?
Unfortunately, if I give any hints it may give it away.
Who is complaining? I get it. You've been a ticket holder for a long time. Thank you for your ongoing support of UNLV.
I was a season ticket holder for a long time too, but due to changes in my family circumstances, I cancelled my season tickets a while back. At this point, it makes no sense to me to buy season tickets, as we'd only be able to make a few games per year. I did that for a while (holding tickets while rarely being able to go), but it became a full time job just to try to give away my tickets to people.
Does SMU have a lot better attendance than UNLV? According to this link, as of 2019, SMU barely had any more attendance at football games than UNLV (21,122 to 17,541). I can't find the basketball numbers, but unless something significant has changed at SMU, the tickets sold doesn't seem to be that important in them giving all of the athletes 36k.
Did I mention you, 2000? My post was about big donors.
I will say this. If you are someone who wants great teams, but wants so eone else to pay for UT, then...
My point is, that big money people don't want to waste their money. 2,500 at basketball and 17,000 at football don't impress the
Let me add one important thing. Years ago, when I first started posting, I wrote things aimed at one person, without noting that. I was told that, if I wanted to address a single poster, either mention them in the post, as I have here, or DM them, which I have done with many of you.
So, if a post of mine does neither, but seems to aim at you, it is general. Go ahead and disagree. This is a board for ideas. I often post the less common opinions. A Parrott is not needed gere.
But, it in't personal. And not aimed a a single poster. Ok?
I will say this. If you are someone who wants great teams, but wants so eone else to pay for UT, then...
My point is, that big money people don't want to waste their money. 2,500 at basketball and 17,000 at football don't impress the
Let me add one important thing. Years ago, when I first started posting, I wrote things aimed at one person, without noting that. I was told that, if I wanted to address a single poster, either mention them in the post, as I have here, or DM them, which I have done with many of you.
So, if a post of mine does neither, but seems to aim at you, it is general. Go ahead and disagree. This is a board for ideas. I often post the less common opinions. A Parrott is not needed gere.
But, it in't personal. And not aimed a a single poster. Ok?
Last edited:
I wasn't saying you were talking about me. I just didn't see anyone complaining. I may get tickets again at some point, but as of now, I go when I can. I'd love for all of our sports teams to be great, but UNLV has really dropped the ball in a lot of ways recently. We've had this debate before, so no need to rehash all of the screw ups. I'm trying to look towards the future. As you said, we need to get butts in seats, even if it means giving away tickets, running promotions to get the students to the games, lower ticket prices, etc.
In 2021 the SMU home attendance average was 20.894
In 2021 the UNLV home attendance average was 22,357
If not for the low attendance verse SDSU for the last game of the home season, UNLV would have averaged about 23,500 per game.
Las season the one big game was Iowa State in regards to attendance, all of the rest of the season was below the average.
I have no clue how ticket sales are going this year, most likely not great otherwise they would have said something, but on the positive side UNLV does play a few home games with potential for decent crowds that include Fresno State (due to last years record), Air Force (Las Vegas has a huge retired Air Force community), and unr.
In 2021 the UNLV home attendance average was 22,357
If not for the low attendance verse SDSU for the last game of the home season, UNLV would have averaged about 23,500 per game.
Las season the one big game was Iowa State in regards to attendance, all of the rest of the season was below the average.
I have no clue how ticket sales are going this year, most likely not great otherwise they would have said something, but on the positive side UNLV does play a few home games with potential for decent crowds that include Fresno State (due to last years record), Air Force (Las Vegas has a huge retired Air Force community), and unr.
Yeah, but the football roster is much larger than basketball, so probably 80% of the money is football related.
I believe they will have a huge impact in both sports. The advantage over a similar size school like UNLV insane. Hopefully fundraising gets better Fast because we will desperately need it.
I haven't even seen anything personally for how to support the NIL stuff, other than to buy an ugly sweatshirt or T shirt to support the athletes directly. Nothing like what SMU has put together. Maybe that stuff is happening behind the scenes, but I've not heard anything about it.
I remember how we used to scramble to get tickets to basketball games. Or how quick people were on the uptake when hoops or even FB tickets were offered by another fan, snatched right up.
There was a big name opponent matchup several years back … it may have been the Duke game at T mobile? Can’t recall exactly but a big game. A neighbor knows I’m a big fan, gave me dozen extra tickets he got from work. Zero takers here. Zero takers at work. Zero takers among friends, some had them already. I felt like an idiot walking around with those extra tickets. So I handed them out to a couple of groups waiting in a small line at the ticket booth on site. I felt kinda bad about it because circumventing the sale probably botched UNLV’s budget so badly and that was the reason they had the satiny orange on the uniforms instead of red. But I forgave myself when I remembered that mascots, school colors, name, tradition, winning … that stuff really doesn’t matter.
But seriously … not being even able to give away tickets, tickets to prime stuff … depressing.
Yeah it is. That's how I felt for a couple of seasons while trying to give away tickets.
I would think that the university could relatively easily get a chunk of the on-campus students to the game though. Do some sort of giveaways or $500 towards their tuition or on campus dining each home game. In the end, it wouldn't amount to much money, but it would increase the attendance and the feel of the game if you could get a couple thousand students at each home game.
I think it is unfair to compare SMU to UNLV. They are a big money private school with signifcantly larger resources. Just like hiw Liberty can break the bank to hire top power school coaching, SMU definitely has more NIL potential.
I get the comparison, both schools may be trying to get in a power conferences.
But the financial situations are totally different.
I get the comparison, both schools may be trying to get in a power conferences.
But the financial situations are totally different.
Yeah, demand was so high. Once, we were going to miss a game, and my parents' minister ask3d for tge tickets.
He had a contest at the church for them. He called to say it was a great success.
Remember "Tickets for teachers" My school had contests to award them, game by game.
He had a contest at the church for them. He called to say it was a great success.
Remember "Tickets for teachers" My school had contests to award them, game by game.
As with Said earlier, the program is 3 1/2 million dollars a year to pay football and basketball players. The money is raised by a Group of donors and business owners in the area.
They have a champion who has been able to organize individuals and businesses to come up with this money.
Hard for me to believe there isn’t a respected individual who couldn’t do the same here.
They have a champion who has been able to organize individuals and businesses to come up with this money.
Hard for me to believe there isn’t a respected individual who couldn’t do the same here.
Not to carry this on, but, wasn't out home attendance boosted by Iowa State?
The point about fans is this. At this moment, the future is tied to improving the teams, which hopefully would draw more people.
That must occur before big bucks come in.
I actually suggested to UNLV that they adopt 5he Kansas State model. They did try some things for hoops.
My big fear is that we are waving at the P5 train caboose.
The point about fans is this. At this moment, the future is tied to improving the teams, which hopefully would draw more people.
That must occur before big bucks come in.
I actually suggested to UNLV that they adopt 5he Kansas State model. They did try some things for hoops.
My big fear is that we are waving at the P5 train caboose.
Warthog, your point is well taken. There should be enough money in Vegas to float the teams in NIL money.
But, the business/individual will to do it?
But, the business/individual will to do it?
We were able to get the money for the Football complex. I believe that was 37 Million. I know Sanchez was did a lot of the leg work. It will take more than one donor to make it happen. Would be great if Mark Davis could make a small contribution. The number would be 1 to 1.5 Million per donor to match the SMU's 3.6 Million NIL deal.
This is one of the main reasons (fundraising) why I was never a Fan of DRF. She really didn't negotiate good deals for the fans or the University. If you don't believe me just take a look at our stadium agreement.
The Sanchez did a lot of leg work is a bit misleading...
The night he was hired Mark Anderson of RJ floated/reported that there was already a guarantee in place for a substantial amount of money to be donated.
Let me backtrack a bit.
Sanchez coached Nico Fertitta at Gorman. I think it was already in the works if UNLV gave him the job, the Fertitta's would donate to UNLV.
Let's be honest, if Sanchez coached at say Palo Verde and had similiar success with no ties to money, he would have got the job at Gorman not UNLV. The track record of successful HS coaches going to D1 programs (Faust at Notre Dame, Dodge at I think North Texas was mediocre at best). There was a promise of significant money contingent on him being hired. Even though Nico went to Notre Dame (Correct me if I'm wrong) The Fertitta's were going to do his HS coach a solid.
I'm not saying he didn't fund raise at all, but the bulk of the money was already in place. If people remember, there were numerous delays in the complex because UNLV was struggling to make up the rest beyond the initial donation.
Agree with the rest of your post though..
