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OT: Chelsea FC takes the UNLV route and hires a relatively young former player as manager.

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Frank Lampard was named Chelsea FC's manager today. Frank Lampard was a great player for Chelsea FC back in the 2000s and started his coaching career just recently. He has had one year of experience with Derby County, and stepping up to manage Chelsea FC is a relatively huge task. At only 41 years of age, I can't help but think of similarities to Dave Rice and UNLV. Granted, there have been examples of players going to become great managers for their teams, but the history of football is also littered with folks who may have jumped in too early. I'm hopeful, but also a bit pessimistic. Not sure if there are any other fans of Chelsea FC or the English Premier League here, but I figured I would share my thoughts here.
 
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Just hope Pulisic sees good playtime.....

But interesting since he has 1 year with Derby coaching. Whew. Although did take them to the championship game. Very huge shoes to fill with only 1 year coaching experience. But he is a legend at Chelsea, so, will be interesting.

At least Rice had a long tenor as an assistant. Was a good gamble with Rice, to bad the dice fell on the "I can't coach for shat" end.
 
RebelSoldat said:
Frank Lampard was named Chelsea FC's manager today. Frank Lampard was a great player for Chelsea FC back in the 2000s and started his coaching career just recently. He has had one year of experience with Derby County, and stepping up to manage Chelsea FC is a relatively huge task. At only 41 years of age, I can't help but think of similarities to Dave Rice and UNLV. Granted, there have been examples of players going to become great managers for their teams, but the history of football is also littered with folks who may have jumped in too early. I'm hopeful, but also a bit pessimistic. Not sure if there are any other fans of Chelsea FC or the English Premier League here, but I figured I would share my thoughts here.
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It will be interesting to see if they give him some time as he will struggle to adjust the squad with the transfer ban. They have a ton of loanees out, but they are loanees for a reason.

What are your thoughts on the job of a football manager compared to a college basketball coach? For sure as a manager there are tactical adjustments, but usually it is more about getting players that fit your formation and system. Whereas, basketball you are coaching and implementing defined schemes each week. Sure, Real Madrid fell apart after Zidane left, but was that coaching or just a coach trying to implement a system with players not fit and also personnel losses (and Modric looking tired from the WC) more than Zidane's influence?
 
Rebel77fl2 said:
It will be interesting to see if they give him some time as he will struggle to adjust the squad with the transfer ban. They have a ton of loanees out, but they are loanees for a reason.

What are your thoughts on the job of a football manager compared to a college basketball coach? For sure as a manager there are tactical adjustments, but usually it is more about getting players that fit your formation and system. Whereas, basketball you are coaching and implementing defined schemes each week. Sure, Real Madrid fell apart after Zidane left, but was that coaching or just a coach trying to implement a system with players not fit and also personnel losses (and Modric looking tired from the WC) more than Zidane's influence?
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Soccer is just an entirely different animal than basketball. You set your formation. Guys know their rolls, and you play. Basketball you sub in and out. Time outs. Stoppage in plays. Draw up plays. Many more opportunities for coaching during play than soccer. But a football manager still has a lot of influence. Just look at what Man U has gone through since Ferguson has left. I think in this day and age need not only a manager, but someone that connects with their players. Man City and Liverpool have found that in their coaches. Man United went the total opposite way with Mourinho. Chelsea might have that coach now that connects with the players given his history with the club. See if the rest falls into place.
 
YellowSpinE said:
From articles I've read in the past, I don't blame Jimmer for moving on from the NBA. No idea what is going on with summer league, but if he was getting more of the same, he is better off heading back overseas.
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Jimmer was a great college basketball player, one of the best offensive players to play in hoops over the past 20 years.

That doesn’t mean it will translate to an NBA career. I can’t consider him an NBA flop myself because I didn’t expect him to stick. That which shined in college is pretty commonplace in the league. He doesn’t have anything to put him over the top. He’s pretty “average”, at best, in every other facet. Definite limitations.
 
Rebel77fl2 said:
It will be interesting to see if they give him some time as he will struggle to adjust the squad with the transfer ban. They have a ton of loanees out, but they are loanees for a reason.

What are your thoughts on the job of a football manager compared to a college basketball coach? For sure as a manager, there are tactical adjustments, but usually, it is more about getting players that fit your formation and system. Whereas, basketball you are coaching and implementing defined schemes each week. Sure, Real Madrid fell apart after Zidane left, but was that coaching or just a coach trying to implement a system with players not fit and also personnel losses (and Modric looking tired from the WC) more than Zidane's influence?
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Football managers and college basketball coaches have somewhat different jobs, but like in all sports, experience, intellect, coaching, and command counts. Zidane is a very unique coach. He was a great player and is also a great manager. Not many have both of those traits in football management. Football clubs often try to change team philosophies overnight with different managers, and sometimes that is a huge mistake (which was the case for Real Madrid. Loptegui was very different in his approach compared to Zidane).

It's interesting that Chelsea calls Lampard a "head coach" and not a "manager." Chelsea FC has traditionally taken transfer dealings out of the manager's hands, so this may be why. (Imagine UNLV telling Otzelberger that he can't do recruiting, and that it would be dealt by a "technical director.") This is one of the biggest issues with Chelsea at the moment.

You could make the argument that football managers and college basketball coaches deal with the same thing (scouting, recruitment/transfer market, strategy, program building, etc). Consistency usually works for both college basketball programs and football clubs.
 
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