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Marion favorite for Oklahoma OC


Its all speculation, but I think he would make the jump.

Interesting. It would make sense. Venables is a defensive guy.

Their freaking OC made 1.1 million. Good lord. Yeah if Marion gets offered that job he's gone.

If he succeeds at OU a HC gig won't be that far off. (He might be in the running for a job again after this season)
 
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Odom will face his first “rebuild” this off-season. Players and likely at least one coach. Marion has brought a lot of attention to UNLV. His offense has been exciting and it draws recruits. He’s also struggled big time with play-calling (seems worse this season) and there may be a trend in this second season of the offense slowing down later in the season. Other teams figure out the weaknesses and adjust but he hasn’t shown much in adjustments himself to this point. While I’m concerned about the PR hit with recruits in losing Marion, I also find myself interested in seeing perhaps a more seasoned OC at the helm. I suspect Odom already has Marion’s replacement identified and teed up in case that happens.
 
Odom will face his first “rebuild” this off-season. Players and likely at least one coach. Marion has brought a lot of attention to UNLV. His offense has been exciting and it draws recruits. He’s also struggled big time with play-calling (seems worse this season) and there may be a trend in this second season of the offense slowing down later in the season. Other teams figure out the weaknesses and adjust but he hasn’t shown much in adjustments himself to this point. While I’m concerned about the PR hit with recruits in losing Marion, I also find myself interested in seeing perhaps a more seasoned OC at the helm. I suspect Odom already has Marion’s replacement identified and teed up in case that happens.

Seeing how our first two OCs under Odom were Petrino and Marion I feel pretty confident he will be able to find a solid OC.
 
It seems like Marion has slowed down the gogo. An element that’s been different this year is a lack of a hurry up. I thought it was just me, but we’ve been averaging 6 less plays a game.

We went from the top half of football 64th to 116/134 in plays per game. That doesn’t seem like a lot, but I would argue we might have won Boise or Syracuse with 6 extra plays each.

Our red zone efficiency has also taken a big dip. We went from 12th in the nation last year, and we’re at 51st this year.
 
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It seems like Marion has slowed down the gogo. An element that’s been different this year is a lack of a hurry up. I thought it was just me, but we’ve been averaging 6 less plays a game.

We went from the top half of football 64th to 116/134 in plays per game. That doesn’t seem like a lot, but I would argue we might have won Boise or Syracuse with 6 extra plays each.

Our red zone efficiency has also taken a big dip. We went from 12th in the nation last year, and we’re at 51st this year.
DC's now have loads of film.
 
He wants to be a HC so I'd be surprised if he only went to OU to be OC. He's likely able to land a HC gig at a G5 school.
As for is it a loss... Maybe, but there's plenty of history of Odom finding OCs who want to play open and fast football. Remember Drew Lock had really big years at Mizzou with him. We might lose a few recruits and transfers, but I can see new OC being just as successful finding replacements.
 
Odom will face his first “rebuild” this off-season. Players and likely at least one coach. Marion has brought a lot of attention to UNLV. His offense has been exciting and it draws recruits. He’s also struggled big time with play-calling (seems worse this season) and there may be a trend in this second season of the offense slowing down later in the season. Other teams figure out the weaknesses and adjust but he hasn’t shown much in adjustments himself to this point. While I’m concerned about the PR hit with recruits in losing Marion, I also find myself interested in seeing perhaps a more seasoned OC at the helm. I suspect Odom already has Marion’s replacement identified and teed up in case that happens.
I just hope Odom is back next year to be able to rebuild the staff/players that are needed. If he is i believe he will do so and keep us top 1-2 teams in the MWC
 
I like the versatility of the go go, it’s evened the playing field for us in so many ways.

But let’s not pretend like it’s a securely held blueprint buried within the walls of Fort Knox.

Very little is original. It’s borrowed, tweaked, bits and pieces are chosen for implementation. While there may be some innovation at some point, every thing gets modified and improved or molded specifically for a type of team.

Odom is the real value. Marion is replaceable. It’s Odom’s philosophy that created our foundation, the unique offense just complements it.
 
2025

Aug 30 - at Sam Houston State
Sept 6 - UCLA
Sept 13 - Idaho State
Sept 20 - at Miami (OH)
Date TBD - at UNR
TBD - Hawaii
TBD - at Colorado State
TBD - at SDSU
TBD - AFA
TBD - Boise State
TBD - New Mexico
TBD - at Utah State


If Odom remains, we should be able to get to at least 9, 10 wins. We are now establishing ourselves as a G5 power, so we are attractive to good locals as well as other kids around the country.
 
2025

Aug 30 - at Sam Houston State
Sept 6 - UCLA
Sept 13 - Idaho State
Sept 20 - at Miami (OH)
Date TBD - at UNR
TBD - Hawaii
TBD - at Colorado State
TBD - at SDSU
TBD - AFA
TBD - Boise State
TBD - New Mexico
TBD - at Utah State


If Odom remains, we should be able to get to at least 9, 10 wins. We are now establishing ourselves as a G5 power, so we are attractive to good locals as well as other kids around the country.
How do they come up with the schedule? Not complaining but how is it we play at USU and home vs Boise again this year? I thought they alternate?
 
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I like the versatility of the go go, it’s evened the playing field for us in so many ways.

But let’s not pretend like it’s a securely held blueprint buried within the walls of Fort Knox.

Very little is original. It’s borrowed, tweaked, bits and pieces are chosen for implementation. While there may be some innovation at some point, every thing gets modified and improved or molded specifically for a type of team.

Odom is the real value. Marion is replaceable. It’s Odom’s philosophy that created our foundation, the unique offense just complements it.
And if you are going to turn over the OC and bring in a new system next year, with all our turnover at the skill positions, is the time to do it.
 
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How do they come up with the schedule? Not complaining but how is it we play at USU and home vs Boise again this year? I thought they alternate?
My thought as well. 3rd year a row BSU plays at Allegiant and we’re at USU. Not complaining as that favors us and gives us another shot at BSU but I’d be raising hell if I was the Boise coach.
 
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My thought as well. 3rd year a row BSU plays at Allegiant and we’re at USU. Not complaining as that favors us and gives us another shot at BSU but I’d be raising hell if I was the Boise coach.
Boise is only playing here for 3rd year in a row because we ended up with tie breaker to host last year. Remember we didn't play them in regular season.
 
I'm ok if Marion decides to leave. We can do just as well with another open offensive minded coach and better with someone who is a much better play caller
 
I'm ok if Marion decides to leave. We can do just as well with another open offensive minded coach and better with someone who is a much better play caller
Just do not become a team like Nebraska. A team that has a past history of success, but now has bad season after bad season piled up with more failure! When was the last time they had success?
 
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I believe a guy name Osborne was the coach...
Tom Osborne was a very good coach, but I think Bob Devaney, who was the coach before Osborne, was the reason why Nebraska did so well from the 60's through to around 2010. Devaney took over a team that couldn't even get close to 50% wins, and won two national championships and finished with a 82.9% winning percentage. Osborne took over the team from Devaney, that was one season removed from a national championship, and continued winning with a very similar win percentage 83.6%. The team did drop off a little, but continue to win under Frank Solich and Bo Peline, but within a couple of years of joining the Big Ten, that was the end of Nebraska football relevance. They haven't been to a bowl game in about a decade.
 
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Not a fan of Nebraska at all but they hired a very good coach last season in Matt Rhule. He has them at 5-4 (although they did lose to UCLA yesterday) which is moving in the right direction.

I don’t think that he will ever get them back to the glory days, but he will make them respectable.

As far as Marion goes, I think that we are right below his Peter Principle. This situation is appropriate for him regarding his ability level (in my opinion). I don’t think that his offense will work against a P5 school on a regular basis.

That being said, if he does get the opportunity, do it today and don’t look back. At $1M per season, go and deal with any scrutiny.
 
Not a fan of Nebraska at all but they hired a very good coach last season in Matt Rhule. He has them at 5-4 (although they did lose to UCLA yesterday) which is moving in the right direction.

I don’t think that he will ever get them back to the glory days, but he will make them respectable.

As far as Marion goes, I think that we are right below his Peter Principle. This situation is appropriate for him regarding his ability level (in my opinion). I don’t think that his offense will work against a P5 school on a regular basis.

That being said, if he does get the opportunity, do it today and don’t look back. At $1M per season, go and deal with any scrutiny.
Bring back Petrino as the OC! Lol
 
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I thought UNLV would lose Scherer before we lose Marion. I am almost certain we will lose Scherer or he will get promoted here. One of those choices.
 
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Not a fan of Nebraska at all but they hired a very good coach last season in Matt Rhule. He has them at 5-4 (although they did lose to UCLA yesterday) which is moving in the right direction.

I don’t think that he will ever get them back to the glory days, but he will make them respectable.

As far as Marion goes, I think that we are right below his Peter Principle. This situation is appropriate for him regarding his ability level (in my opinion). I don’t think that his offense will work against a P5 school on a regular basis.

That being said, if he does get the opportunity, do it today and don’t look back. At $1M per season, go and deal with any scrutiny.

I think he is excellent at play design and concepts.

I think he's an above average in game play caller. Not great, but solid.

We're top 5 in the country in scoring offense.

But

Around 40th in Red zone offense.

We've settled for a lot of three's where we should probably gotten sevens.
 
I think he is excellent at play design and concepts.

I think he's an above average in game play caller. Not great, but solid.

We're top 5 in the country in scoring offense.

But

Around 40th in Red zone offense.

We've settled for a lot of three's where we should probably gotten sevens.
We dipped from 12th last year to 51st this year. Still “solid”, but he just hasn’t been able to score as efficiently with an O line full of seniors as he should. Our numbers are also inflated from Utah Tech this year too.
 
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I thought UNLV would lose Scherer before we lose Marion. I am almost certain we will lose Scherer or he will get promoted here. One of those choices.
I find it funny that people say they are ok with Marion leaving and defend the DC. Our defense gets shreaded vs and qb who is decent or good. We need a new DC.
 
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I find it funny that people say they are ok with Marion leaving and defend the DC. Our defense gets shreaded vs and qb who is decent or good. We need a new DC.
I assume you are saying that Boise State didn't have a decent QB since UNLV defense did a very good job of shutting them down overall.
 
I assume you are saying that Boise State didn't have a decent QB since UNLV defense did a very good job of shutting them down overall.
Boise qb toasted us again and again. 29 points given up is not shuttin down a team. Syracuse, Utah state, Oregon st all moved the ball all over on us. Even first half we could not stop kansas at all.
 
I find it funny that people say they are ok with Marion leaving and defend the DC. Our defense gets shreaded vs and qb who is decent or good. We need a new DC.
Defense did well enough to beat Boise, not so much Syracuse.

But we left 6-10 sure points on the field by not being able to perform in the redzone vs Boise (1st and goal from the 4 yard line gives us 3 points, sack taking on 3rd down taking is out of FG position), not to mention the brain dead play on 3rd down that led to an interception late in the first half to give BSU 7 they weren’t expecting … so, potentially, offensive miscues/inefficiencies accounted for 14-18 points in a tight game, a 5 point loss against a top 15 team. Offense really shot themselves in the foot. Defense played well enough to win. We held a heisman candidate to under 4 yards per rush when he averaged 10 per rush on the season.

Boise scores 46 per game, we held them to 29. Boise has the 4th best rushing offensive inefficiency the country, we held them below their average.

And offensive inefficiency in the red zone has been an issue all season long for us.

Defense hasn’t been perfect but was good enough in our biggest game ever.
 
I think he is excellent at play design and concepts.

I think he's an above average in game play caller. Not great, but solid.

We're top 5 in the country in scoring offense.

But

Around 40th in Red zone offense.

We've settled for a lot of three's where we should probably gotten sevens.
I think that my ho-hum about him staying or going is the red zone issues.

He’s WAY better than what we’ve had previously so he’s not easy to replace. I just think that P5 schools would keep him in relative check in year one then find flaws and weaknesses in his offense year two causing him to dip even lower.

We can’t afford another loss this season if we are going to get another chance at Boise, which we all want. I’m just concerned that we may see regression now that schools will have two years of tape with tape of this season’s talents playing in his system.
 
I think that my ho-hum about him staying or going is the red zone issues.

He’s WAY better than what we’ve had previously so he’s not easy to replace. I just think that P5 schools would keep him in relative check in year one then find flaws and weaknesses in his offense year two causing him to dip even lower.

We can’t afford another loss this season if we are going to get another chance at Boise, which we all want. I’m just concerned that we may see regression now that schools will have two years of tape with tape of this season’s talents playing in his system.

I didn't think you were bashing him at all.

I think like most offenses it's all about roster. What is good about Marion's offense is that Both Sluka and Hajj despite having slightly different skill sets have been able to move the ball.

I think Marion's offense us like every other spread offense out there. Each has its own wrinkles. Marion just has some unique formations.

But I get your point the more people see it the better they can adjust. He'll just have to continue to tweak it.
 
It seems like Marion has slowed down the gogo. An element that’s been different this year is a lack of a hurry up. I thought it was just me, but we’ve been averaging 6 less plays a game.

We went from the top half of football 64th to 116/134 in plays per game. That doesn’t seem like a lot, but I would argue we might have won Boise or Syracuse with 6 extra plays each.

Our red zone efficiency has also taken a big dip. We went from 12th in the nation last year, and we’re at 51st this year.
It’s a little misleading now because the defense has actually created turnovers and given the offense the ball in good field position. The program is 16th in the country in PPG and it has actually increased since last year by 3 points.

On the other hand, we have issues in the red zone. There’s no clear red zone threat nor a thumper in the backfield that can be a difference.
 
I think the D coordinator will be better next year with more new talent. We're not giving up the huge pass plays which killed us last year. Not a huge fan of the zone scheme but he fixed the run defense and shored up the deep pass defense.. get a lock down corner and improve pass rush and I think the scheme will probably be fine. Lack of pass pressure is probably worse than the soft cushion.
 
I think the D coordinator will be better next year with more new talent. We're not giving up the huge pass plays which killed us last year. Not a huge fan of the zone scheme but he fixed the run defense and shored up the deep pass defense.. get a lock down corner and improve pass rush and I think the scheme will probably be fine. Lack of pass pressure is probably worse than the soft cushion.

It would help if just once UNLV had a dominant guy off the edge for pass rush. Either an DE or OLB. Somebody that could get you 8-10 sacks on their own.

Agree he's done good job shoring up the areas you mentioned.
 
It would help if just once UNLV had a dominant guy off the edge for pass rush. Either an DE or OLB. Somebody that could get you 8-10 sacks on their own.

Agree he's done good job shoring up the areas you mentioned.
Hopefully he can come in an make a big difference next year. Not sure why they still do not have him ranked? Was a 4/5* before he made a commit to UNLV.
 
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