Unlv offered Morris today DocRebel has been high on him out of Desert Pines
Rivals page https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/167426
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Rivals page https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/167426
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Offer Isaiah Morris
- Thread starter RebelTomola
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I hate to be pessimistic, but we have zero chance of landing him.
Oh wait lol
Oh wait lol
He has zero stars next to his name, and he weighs 150 lbs. This is the kind of player we have a chance of landing.
Really fast, shifty, and with great vision.You can't coach those talents. At one point of the video he went from full speed to no speed to full speed in order to get a defender to miss him. Him not having many stars is due more to where he plays than his actual talent. He'll get bigger/ stronger/ faster, he's only a junior.
He reminds me a lot of another former Rebel who weighed 150 lbs. out of high school, who continued after UNLV to the CFL and later the Redskins.
You continually show your lack of understanding of how the star system is derived. I already torched you on the other boards for your lack of knowledge on the topic.
Right now he has 0*. As more teams become interested his stars will/could go up. This is how the system works. Rivals does not have enough resources to collect data on all these players without help, namely following what schools are interested in kids and camps. If this kid gets offered by a couple more MWC schools he will jump up to 2*. Most likely his size will keep him at that level. If he attends a camp and runs a ridiculous 40 time he might get a bump to 3*, or if a Washington State or Oregon State jump in his grade could go up.
Your backhanded attempt at humor fails because we are already showing the ability to recruit 3* kids. This class was not reminiscent of Hauck's last few classes where there were a ton of NR and 2* guys.
If we truly want to get into it deeper, you could argue that this staff has already landed 3 4* recruits. Armani Rogers who was a Cal commit and 4* on ESPN. Stanton was a 4* coming out of HS and Tenpenny was a 4* Bama recruit that transfered here. Transfers are part of recruiting. You lose.
Again nobody has asserted we are going to beat out USC or UCLA for 4/5* recruits. That won't become a true possibilty unless we get new facilities, a stadium or an invitation to a P5 conference.
We are however getting closer to keeping top local level talent at home. It may not be next year, but if the new facilities are built it vastly increases our chances.
Everybody is well aware of these facts. We are simply following the process. If you care to break down film on these players and add something to the discussion please do. Explain what you think this kid or that kid could bring to the program, what are his strengths. Or talk about what you don't like about a particular players game etc.
No need to point out the obvious and somehow think you are being witty or edgy.
Sanchez has already shown that UNLV can win recruiting wars against schools like Iowa St., Utah, Cal, UCLA, Baylor, etc. While UNLV still needs a lot of facilities, and will lose most of the recruiting wars verse P5 schools, they will continue to win more and more of these recruiting battles. I would not be surprised at all to see them start stealing players from schools like USC. Once UNLV has a ground breaking for new training facilities, growth in the fan base at games, starts going to bowls, I expect things will just continue to get better.
Yep. Right now we can steal some of the 3* guys away from P5 schools with playing time chances.
Like you said the 4/5 star guys will take new facilities/stadium/P5 invite. Its a process, one that I think the diehards who have suffered through the last 10+ years are enjoying.
The star system is pretty obvious. More stars = better player (with few exceptions).
You already have shown proof you have no concept how the prospects get graded or ranked in multiple threads.
Once again to show this fact, if Morris has a couple more schools offer him and gains stars, did he suddenly get better?
Yes the eventual grades at the very top tend to be accurate. Thats why teams always in the top ten recruiting classes typically are there all the time. (Bama, FSU, Ohio State) And why teams just outside the top ten are typically much more fluid situations. The ability to grade all these prospects accurately is impossible. Not all 3-4-5* recruits are of equal talent or ability. Many when re-graded after their careers would drop and others would rise.
Would you care to argue that point using Pat McCaw, D.Morgan and Goodluck Okonoboh in basketball as examples?
One was an afterthought 3* recruit, one was ranked #15 in the country and 5* the other was ranked 30th and a 4*.
McCaw 3*, Morgan 5*, Okonoboh 4*. You really want to debate that McCaw isn't the best player of the three?
Go ahead and explain now how precise these rankings are after the elite prospects are gone.
Once you get past the 'can't miss' players like Ben Simmons, it becomes more muddled and less accurate. The same holds true for football.
I look more at what schools and coaches are recruiting kids and evaluating them vs some composite score created by Rivals or other services.
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I'll take all of the four star recruits and build a team, you can take the field (minus the five star recruits), and I will beat you every time.
I would win with ease. JJ Watt is an exception. You can't base things on exceptions.
Conjecture.
I give examples.
Still waiting for your explanation on McCaw, Morgan and Okonoboh.
Oh and tell that to UNLV basketball the last two years.
Or explain how UVA is a top 15 program with classes ranking out of 25 vs UNLV having top 15 classes and probably not making the dance again.
Once you get past the elite it becomes more blurry.
Go back to being wrong on the other boards.
Nobody wants the football board to be another Tark board.
The fact that Will Levi agrees with me and we often disagree on topics, and he has a much clearer idea how this process works, is further proof of how clueless you are.
Now go back to being wrong on the other boards.
Mwsn... Please stay on the topic of the thread. If you deviate every thread, as you've recently started doing, I will delete your posts.
I've made it very clear that I will moderate this board tighter than what you're used to on the Tark board.
Consider this my last warning.
I've made it very clear that I will moderate this board tighter than what you're used to on the Tark board.
Consider this my last warning.
In other states, the recruiting is dictated by the local football programs while in Nevada and our primary programs are UNLV and Nevada, programs that haven't traditionally set the tone. I do my part to close that gap and bring more options to the table.
Recruiting for Nevada kids depend on programs detouring to the area. Its not a place that random people would know the ins and outs on high school talent in the area though it annually produce elite athletes in football, basketball, track and baseball.
On a national scale, Nevada isn't in the path of many potential scouts with just two college programs in the state that separated by 455 miles with nearly 2.85 million people within the borders
Only two players in the Mountain West have back-to-back 1000-yard rushing seasons and one was 3 star Donnel Pumphery from Canyon Springs and 0-star Jacobi Owens from Centennial, both Nevadans.
Wide receiver Devonte Boyd is a 2-star high school prospect, 18 game starting offensive guard Eric Noone was a 0-star, Zack Singer 2-stars, cornerback, Tim Hough was a 0-star, offensive tackle J'Ondray Sanders 0-stars and defensive tackle Mike Hughes 0-stars are all starters on this team.
SUUs NFL bound Miles Killebrew (Foothill) and LeShaun Sims (Agassi Prep) had no stars in high school.
Unlike high exposure states like California, Texas, Ohio and Florida, Nevadans will always going to be slightly behind in earning stars but it isn't a reflection of talent. You can watch the film and tell the kid is an outstanding talent.
