How much did recent MWC/PAC stuff play into this decision?

[Bullmastiff 1]

Was it all about the money?

Was the stability of a P4 conference appealing vs the uncertainty of the G5.

I mean usually G5 conferences get raided by P4 conferences or possibly another bigger G5. We got raided by a conference that isn't even a conference yet.

 

[Rebelbacker]

He is getting 6.6 mil for 5 years. Guaranteed money. And that is before any bonuses. Don't overthink it. It was about the money.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

He is getting 6.6 mil for 5 years. Guaranteed money. And that is before any bonuses. Don't overthink it. It was about the money.

Oh definitely about the money. More just wondering if it may impact next hire.

Is new MWC a step up from the say the MAC or the Sun Belt?

Can UNLV scrape enough together to lure a current HC from another G5?

Or was any big money only there for Odom?

 

[Rosegreen1]

It was a cash grab, that’s all it was.

He went 0-3 vs Boise and left at the first opportunity.

Harper said there’s a ton of interest. So I doubt it has anything to do with UNLV turning down the PAC.

 

[oneepstein]

Oh definitely about the money. More just wondering if it may impact next hire.

Is new MWC a step up from the say the MAC or the Sun Belt?

Can UNLV scrape enough together to lure a current HC from another G5?

Or was any big money only there for Odom?

Is that contract amount confirmed? It’s kinda where I was expecting it to be though.

Had also heard that we went to $4mil… which is all I could have hoped for I guess. If that was the amount then I’d expect it was only available to Odom. Would hope though that there’s a good amount for the right guy.

 

[unlv7163]

Don’t think it impacts it much, if at all. I know we all like to point out the subtle differences since we are in it, but I don’t think most outside of the situation see the PAC and MWC as being any different. If anything, it has become easier to win and be in the mix for a playoff spot most years.

 

[unlv7163]

Is that contract amount confirmed? It’s kinda where I was expecting it to be though.

Had also heard that we went to $4mil… which is all I could have hoped for I guess. If that was the amount then I’d expect it was only available to Odom. Would hope though that there’s a good amount for the right guy.

If we were able to come up with $4m, I like where we are at. Next coach won’t get that much out of the gate, but with sustained success, it will be there. Huge IMO.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Is that contract amount confirmed? It’s kinda where I was expecting it to be though.

Had also heard that we went to $4mil… which is all I could have hoped for I guess. If that was the amount then I’d expect it was only available to Odom. Would hope though that there’s a good amount for the right guy.

2.5 to 3 makes UNLV competitive and attractive to a lot of people in terms of money.

It's conference affiliation and uncertainty that kinda concerns me a bit. Maybe I'm wrong and it doesn't matter to coaches at all. And it's just the money.

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

Don’t think it impacts it much, if at all. I know we all like to point out the subtle differences since we are in it, but I don’t think most outside of the situation see the PAC and MWC as being any different. If anything, it has become easier to win and be in the mix for a playoff spot most years.

I agree for the most part only 'argument' I would make that it matters is that Boise was able to lose a game. But because they played in the current MWC they were able to overcome it and make up some ground.

I'm not sure if that's going to be the case in the new MWC.

 

[TheMatrix31]

He is getting 6.6 mil for 5 years. Guaranteed money. And that is before any bonuses. Don't overthink it. It was about the money.

Are those the numbers? Haven’t been able to find them online

 

[Rebelbacker]

Are those the numbers? Haven’t been able to find them online

Yes

 

[unlv7163]

I agree for the most part only 'argument' I would make that it matters is that Boise was able to lose a game. But because they played in the current MWC they were able to overcome it and make up some ground.

I'm not sure if that's going to be the case in the new MWC.

We would have been able to overcome a loss too. They were able to finish in the top 10 because the loss was to the #1 team in country by 3 points. The key will be to play good non conference teams like we did this. I don’t think whether we beat San Jose St or Colorado St matters. Beating Kansas and Houston helped us to be in that position. Not the MW slate. I honestly think the only time I can see playing a factor is if both a MW and PAC team are undefeated. But even then non conference opponents and margin of victory will be bigger factors IMO

 

[Bullmastiff 1]

We would have been able to overcome a loss too. They were able to finish in the top 10 because the loss was to the #1 team in country by 3 points. The key will be to play good non conference teams like we did this. I don’t think whether we beat San Jose St or Colorado St matters. Beating Kansas and Houston helped us to be in that position. Not the MW slate. I honestly think the only time I can see playing a factor is if both a MW and PAC team are undefeated. But even then non conference opponents and margin of victory will be bigger factors IMO

That's a fair assessment.

I'm just pissy today. 🙂

 

[Pistol Pete 1]

We would have been able to overcome a loss too. They were able to finish in the top 10 because the loss was to the #1 team in country by 3 points. The key will be to play good non conference teams like we did this. I don’t think whether we beat San Jose St or Colorado St matters. Beating Kansas and Houston helped us to be in that position. Not the MW slate. I honestly think the only time I can see playing a factor is if both a MW and PAC team are undefeated. But even then non conference opponents and margin of victory will be bigger factors IMO

Might be a good thing as well as an opportunity that the big schools are thinking they need to schedule down. How about a home & home with UNLV?

 

[1Tripoda]

He is getting 6.6 mil for 5 years. Guaranteed money. And that is before any bonuses. Don't overthink it. It was about the money.

That is generational money. His kids never have to work again.

 

[Rosegreen1]

That is generational money. His kids never have to work again.

Not really, kids tend to blow it on stupid shit. Generational money tends to ruin their lives.

 

[dcut03]

Back to the OP.
I do think the uncertainty on the MW playsba role. I mean a safe 4 mil vs a little more tentative 6+ mil is close enough. Purdue and the B1G aren't going anywhere, but trying to make it in the new MW is tough to know what happens there.
He saw how hard it was to get decent crowds here. How there's money here but it isn't easy to come by. He knows interest is fleeting at best. He also knows the NIL game here and the battles that he will lose vs a B1G school.
So yes the money was a huge part of it, but I dont think it was the only part. If we were in the Big 12 at 4 mil a year he may not leave . Thoughh again the Big 12 winner took a really Impressive championship win and a fortunate SMU loss to actually get a bye and only one team in

 

[Rosegreen1]

Back to the OP.
I do think the uncertainty on the MW playsba role. I mean a safe 4 mil vs a little more tentative 6+ mil is close enough. Purdue and the B1G aren't going anywhere, but trying to make it in the new MW is tough to know what happens there.
He saw how hard it was to get decent crowds here. How there's money here but it isn't easy to come by. He knows interest is fleeting at best. He also knows the NIL game here and the battles that he will lose vs a B1G school.
So yes the money was a huge part of it, but I dont think it was the only part. If we were in the Big 12 at 4 mil a year he may not leave . Thoughh again the Big 12 winner took a really Impressive championship win and a fortunate SMU loss to actually get a bye and only one team in

He also saw someone from his own coaching tree get fired at Purdue 2 years in, and thought that would be a good place to coach?

I don’t think the MW or declining the PAC had any bearing on his decision. This was purely a bag move.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

Yes

Do you know if Joe Judge is one of the former NFL coaches who reached out? Just curious...

 

[dcut03]

He also saw someone from his own coaching tree get fired at Purdue 2 years in, and thought that would be a good place to coach?

I don’t think the MW or declining the PAC had any bearing on his decision. This was purely a bag move.

UNLV may have a better shot at making the playoffs, but even that is debatable now woth 4 B1G teams making the field. But Purdue has a shot at winning the thing. UNLV does not.
You are salty and I get it.
But ask anyone else without a connection to UNLV. No one will be surprised by this

 

[Rosegreen1]

UNLV may have a better shot at making the playoffs, but even that is debatable now woth 4 B1G teams making the field. But Purdue has a shot at winning the thing. UNLV does not.
You are salty and I get it.
But ask anyone else without a connection to UNLV. No one will be surprised by this

Purdue won one game, its NIL offerings are weak compared to anyone else in the conference. Look at the schools in that conference. A lot of them are going to be upping the ante because they didn’t make it. Northwestern is pouring a lot of money into their program. Same with Illinois etc.

Tough job and I thought Odom would be more selective in his next stop but it appears he was ready to get out of dodge here. Remember he was a finalist for the UCF job, got passed over and then started on Purdue. His mind was made up awhile ago. There wasn’t any significant extension as a result, that extension he signed was not because of lack of funds. It was so he doesn’t limit his opportunities in the future.

So all that talk of being here and building something special was bullshit and he’s doing the same at his next stop. “It’s a dream to coach at a place like Purdue”. What?

 

[bcvegaspt2]

Do you know if Joe Judge is one of the former NFL coaches who reached out? Just curious...

My initial thought is Bienemy.

 

[Rosegreen1]

My initial thought is Bienemy.

Possibly. I thought Bienemy “mutually parted” with ucla to pursue an nfl job.

 

[Boston Rebel 2]

My initial thought is Bienemy.

That would make sense. I just heard something from a Judge family member that made me wonder. Bienemy I bet would take it. On paper he is an assistant I would give a chance to. But there is some reason no one has given him a head job yet.

 

[dcut03]

Purdue won one game, its NIL offerings are weak compared to anyone else in the conference. Look at the schools in that conference. A lot of them are going to be upping the ante because they didn’t make it. Northwestern is pouring a lot of money into their program. Same with Illinois etc.

Tough job and I thought Odom would be more selective in his next stop but it appears he was ready to get out of dodge here. Remember he was a finalist for the UCF job, got passed over and then started on Purdue. His mind was made up awhile ago. There wasn’t any significant extension as a result, that extension he signed was not because of lack of funds. It was so he doesn’t limit his opportunities in the future.

So all that talk of being here and building something special was bullshit and he’s doing the same at his next stop. “It’s a dream to coach at a place like Purdue”. What?

No one's dream is to coach at UNLV. A chance to coach in a P2 conference is a dream that most coaches have. He turned a loser into a winner at this level, he probably believes he can do it at the highest level.

Also, who cares if the next season schedule is rough? He doesn't have to compete at the top of the Big 10 in year one. He has a fully guaranteed contract, he will have some leeway. He just needs to be better than awful his first year.

I agree he was probably looking to move on given how paltry the buyout was. If it was his side that made that number so small then the writing was on the wall before he coached a game here. Which is fine if you know the deal. But you can't expect a lifer if he is playing defense on not being poached not once but twice with contracts

 

[reagan21]

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