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Goodluck declares

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Goodluck just declared for the draft via Twitter This is getting ridiculous. Seriously? He said he left UNLV because he believed he could achieve his goal better outside the institution. He is hiring an agent so there is no going back. These players are delusional about their abilities and how tough it really is to make it in the NBA.I wish them all well and hope they all have back up plans.
 
If only there were professional leagues other than the NBA...

Please stop acting like if he doesn't get drafted he'll be working at the mall.
 
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Pretty appropriate summary and swan song for the Rice Era... an underachieving 18-15 team in a lowly conference, not even in any postseason in 3 years, and half the guys on the team declaring for the NBA? sounds about right.

Smh
 
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Well Goodluck to him but boy the number of players all across the country declaring for the draft is crazy but really stands out here at UNLV. But why hire an agent at this time ? I don't know the rules but didn't the NBA change the rules so that players would actually have a longer look and get feedback from teams so they can make an informed decision? I would think that the players would still be able to hire an agent later if they choose. Anybody have insight as to why they would hire and agent so quickly? Is it because they can take money maybe?
 
Due to the new rule, you are going to see MASS kids declaring, every year from every institution. The NBA is going to ruin a lot of these kids lives, because once they get that itch and have a little taste, they won't be back, they will be in the D League or go overseas until called upon ala Roscoe, Khem and Wood. I think it's a mix of the new rule, all the turmoil here at UNLV and the constant unknown that is the NCAA. I bring up the NCAA due to Jones' issue, and the decision I don't blame him one bit on making.
 
Well Goodluck to him but boy the number of players all across the country declaring for the draft is crazy but really stands out here at UNLV. But why hire an agent at this time ? I don't know the rules but didn't the NBA change the rules so that players would actually have a longer look and get feedback from teams so they can make an informed decision? I would think that the players would still be able to hire an agent later if they choose. Anybody have insight as to why they would hire and agent so quickly? Is it because they can take money maybe?
I believe is was the NCAA that changed the rule with regard to entering the draft or returning to school. It used to be the deadline was the day before the Spring signing period, mid April, but the new NCAA rule gives the players until mid-May to decide whether or not to return to college. The big problem I see with that is they must still attend classes and keep up with their classwork while going thru the draft process. Missing almost the whole spring semester could negatively affect their grades and possible eligibility anyway. I think those that hire the agent so quickly, Zimm and Goodluck so far, are going all in the pro basketball world. McCaw was interviewing but hadn't hired an agent yet. The other players are just testing the waters to see where they might go if they participate in the draft. Only the players themselves know why they are making the choice they are making. Money is the obviously the biggest motivation but I speculate another year of college ball could pay off exponentially in a higher draft pick and larger initial pay day but there is always the risk of injury. They have a limited window to make money play ing basketball so they have to weigh their options.
 
If only there were professional leagues other than the NBA...

Please stop acting like if he doesn't get drafted he'll be working at the mall.

You like to put words in my mouth. I never said that at all. I simply said that he should have stayed a year or 2 longer in college, he would have improved his skills and be more marketable in the draft but if that dream didn't work out he could have earned a college degree that he could use after his basketball career ends. I don't believe he has improved on his own. I guess he could always sell cars with Ed O'Bannon at a Findley dealership.
 
It seems that, given the current rules regarding underclassmen declaring their eligibility for the draft, it makes sense for these athletes to test the water. But it really is the height of absurdity when you’ve got a young man who, just a few months ago, the last time he was on an actual team (if you can call it that) asked his coach to take him out of the starting line-up, and his next move is to opt for the pros…?

I’m not blaming Okonoboh, or any of these players, but something is seriously wrong with this picture. Think about it. Given the 300-odd Division I schools, plus all of the lower divisions. Add in the players who opt to try straight out of high school, and the international players, and you’ve got possibly thousands of young men all vying to become one of the sixty names that will be called on Draft Day.

Sure, there are other ways to make a decent living playing ball, but I can’t help but believe that at least some of these players are selling their ultimate dream short. I think that someone like Pat McCaw, with two more years of experience, could possibly develop into an NBA talent. I think back to Stacey Augmon. As a sophomore he was still a raw talent, with lots to learn. It was in his junior and senior years that he developed into an All-American, Olympian, and first-round pick. I honestly believe that McCaw could become that good. But we, and he, will never know. Instead he will most likely spend the next decade playing in half-empty high-school gyms, or in far-away places, in relative obscurity.

I may be wrong about Pat, but it will be true for some players out there. Budding talents who will never receive the kind of teaching that college ball affords them. And will consequently never achieve their true potential. It’s too bad…
 
You like to put words in my mouth. I never said that at all. I simply said that he should have stayed a year or 2 longer in college, he would have improved his skills and be more marketable in the draft but if that dream didn't work out he could have earned a college degree that he could use after his basketball career ends. I don't believe he has improved on his own. I guess he could always sell cars with Ed O'Bannon at a Findley dealership.

In your OP you rip these guys for overestimating own their talent but clearly you aren't understanding their goals. Goodluck isnt going to have to compete in the NBA anytime soon and I suspect he knows that.

While Goodluck might be nowhere near an NBA player at the moment (or maybe ever), he is talented enough to have a career overseas. That career can begin right now, and it will likely pay better than any job he'll secure working for someone else in his twenties, with or without a BA degree. A player can develop under world class coaching playing professional basketball overseas, and because of that fact the NBA draft is full of foreign league players every year now. Will only increase.

And as for the EOB comment, I guess I have no idea what you mean. Is your point that Ed wouldn't be selling cars today if he'd finished school?

Because if so... wow...
 
Many times, dreams have a time and place to be fulfilled. I can understand that it's hard to put things on hold for awhile, but we all know hindsight is a SOB and these young guys can't reflect or see the bigger picture at 18-20 years old.

Not just 60 players to hear their names called, where many of them in the 2nd round still won't play much, but there are only so many spots on ANY team. You have to be extremely confident in your abilities, and pretty much dominate your opponents day in and day out to think you can step to the next level. Anything less, and you're going to be disappointed with no turning back.

On a separate note, I can understand why players want to enter their name in the draft, ESPECIALLY when a coach leaves/gets fired. If I had it my way, if you think you're good enough to jump to the NBA out of high school, they should be able to, but if you go to college, you got 4 years there and can't jump. Think of it as not just the insurance of having a degree but also development and buy-in to play for a college.
 
In your OP you rip these guys for overestimating own their talent but clearly you aren't understanding their goals. Goodluck isnt going to have to compete in the NBA anytime soon and I suspect he knows that.

While Goodluck might be nowhere near an NBA player at the moment (or maybe ever), he is talented enough to have a career overseas. That career can begin right now, and it will likely pay better than any job he'll secure working for someone else in his twenties, with or without a BA degree. A player can develop under world class coaching playing professional basketball overseas, and because of that fact the NBA draft is full of foreign league players every year now. Will only increase.

And as for the EOB comment, I guess I have no idea what you mean. Is your point that Ed wouldn't be selling cars today if he'd finished school?

Because if so... wow...

I understand his goals and still believe another year or two would get him further in his dream. I read your link and think even the max pay in the Europe for ten years isn't much, then what? My point about EOB was that he did play in the NBA & Europe but after his basketball career ended he didn't have a degree to fall back on so he is selling cars. Nothing wrong with that job, but probably not what he thought he would be doing when he left UCLA. I made that kind of money with my two UNLV degrees in under 5 years and my career doesn't have an expiration date.
 
Hold on - You don't know how much EOB is making. Sales is a very lucrative line of work if you are good at. That, plus Las Vegas has many jobs/careers in which one doesn't have to have a degree to make a good living.

Sure, having a degree opens doors (provides opportunities), but how do you know that 1) EOB isn't currently getting his degree, plans to go get his degree, or already has his degree or 2) is making more selling cars than most people do with their degrees?

I have a degree and he has been in more commercials than I have. He probably makes more than I do also. Your heart is in the right place - just providing counterpoint.
 
This is why we should charge for the Tark Board, not the Confidential Board. The humor over here, while unintentional, is worth the price of admission.

Ed O'Bannon is barely supporting his family since he sells cars? Too bad he never earned a dime playing in the NBA before his current lowly career.
 
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I understand his goals and still believe another year or two would get him further in his dream. I read your link and think even the max pay in the Europe for ten years isn't much, then what? My point about EOB was that he did play in the NBA & Europe but after his basketball career ended he didn't have a degree to fall back on so he is selling cars. Nothing wrong with that job, but probably not what he thought he would be doing when he left UCLA. I made that kind of money with my two UNLV degrees in under 5 years and my career doesn't have an expiration date.

This is really simple, and no, you don't seem to get it. He can get his degree in his 30s. Can he still play pro basketball in Europe in his 30s? Maybe not.

Your point about EOB is a bad one because under no circumstances does EOB regret leaving school to be the #9 pick in the draft. I think he signed for 3M. How much did your degree make you again? Lol

I'm guessing the average Euro pro makes 80k and pays little or no taxes. I'm happy to hear you used your degree to make more than that in 5 years after graduation. I did too (yay us.). Many don't.

Bottom line is he stands nothing to lose,can finish school anytime he wants, and can develop just as well getting paid to play as he can by staying here.

You throwing a fit everytime one of these guys chooses to leave just sounds a lot like hurt feelings.
 
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Hold on - You don't know how much EOB is making. Sales is a very lucrative line of work if you are good at. That, plus Las Vegas has many jobs/careers in which one doesn't have to have a degree to make a good living.

Sure, having a degree opens doors (provides opportunities), but how do you know that 1) EOB isn't currently getting his degree, plans to go get his degree, or already has his degree or 2) is making more selling cars than most people do with their degrees?

I have a degree and he has been in more commercials than I have. He probably makes more than I do also. Your heart is in the right place - just providing counterpoint.

Relax people, I said there was nothing wrong with his job just saying for most players when the basketball career doesn't work out or comes to an end, it is helpful to have a college degree to fall back on.
 
22 years old making 80-400k per year (likely tax free) while traveling the world and living in hotels, training under professional coaching in the hopes you improve enough to land your "dream job" in the NBA... Sounds like a terrible idea...

Finish your degree online kid, there's time. If you can get paid that money playing professional basketball nobody with any sense would blame you for choosing that route.
 
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Not hard to imagine them being locked up for tax evasion too. America has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
 
he seriously can't mean the NBA draft. can't be serious.

why even wait? he should just hurry and contact the reps in the Dominican Republic "pro" league and get the head start on it. he'll have first dibs on the finest horse and cart to take him from gym to gym.
 
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These kids are nuts, raised on video games and social media, everyone has delusions of grandeur. In saying that, this year's draft is down, McCaw has a good chance of being drafted, Jones too with his freak athleticism and potential.
 
I would like the NBA to take the D-League and develop it more as a minor league than what it is now. Maybe have more levels to it?

Because right now, kids that don't want to be in college are attending college. And it is screwing up b-ball programs, along with the college game. Before you get to know a player, they move on. Instead of having someone you can follow for three or four years, you get a rent-a-player.

I don't think a player's maturity improves that much from 18 to 19. I'm sure there are some immature 30 year olds in the NBA. They should keep college basketball players in college more while allowing those with talent to test their ability in the d-league first.
 
I'm sure there are some immature 30 year olds in the NBA.

I’m sure I could come up with some current players to fit this description, but my first thought was…...The Worm…:pimp:

(Although admittedly he was all-man on the boards)
 
These kids are nuts, raised on video games and social media, everyone has delusions of grandeur. In saying that, this year's draft is down, McCaw has a good chance of being drafted, Jones too with his freak athleticism and potential.

In the first round?
 
NBA could do a hell of a lot with the D-League. Area I live in would be perfect for a minor league basketball team. NBA seems retarded when it comes to such matters though.
 
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