Fire him today!
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Seems like CSU laying a fitty burger on us would be more than enough. Looks like they are on their way.
Probably will come after the SJSU loss on Nov 23rd, so Sunday the 24th? Allowed to coach the final game vs UNR.
Do you replace him with the guy in his first season as a defensive coordinator or the interim offensive coordinator? Like it or not, he's finishing the season.
Yep.
No point in mid season firing. Accomplishes nothing and potentially hurts recruiting.
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Someone should be punished for the state of UNLV football, and it would make a lot of us feel better to see someone punished and humiliated, for that would mean that a higher power cared. But not Sanchez isn’t to blame for the last 30-something years.
The screaming of fire him now! It's pure emotion but any sensible person know that no good comes of that. The season is a loss, it may get embarrassing, it can't get much better, not enough to matter, so let it play out and call it the Monday after our final game. You just don't fire mid-season without scandal. It's knee-jerk.
Though it couldn't be the dumpster fire that basketball turned out to be (still in recovery mode trying to get back to where we were four years later).... because we are already rock bottom and are uncompetitive.
Agree. There's no basis for firing him in season.
You make it known you intend to go another direction at seasons end behind closed doors.
I'm sure there is a list of candidates already compiled.
You make the firing immediately after the season. You get the next guy hired during dead period before bowl games start.
New coach will have to recruit current commits again to eliminate some poaching. Talk to current players to try and eliminate transfers.
You want to get the next guy in as soon as possible.
That said, nothing is set in stone. He very well may be back next year and no change is made.
I can see it now though - grasping at straws is gonna come from fanboys... "we can't do better so stick with him". Which, I agree with in principle.... but they'll hammer the crap out of it.
I don't want to hear it.
'We can't do better'
We also can't do much worse than what we are currently watching.
If there is a new guy at the helm next season it won't be easy. It may not be better, but it doesn't mean you reward the current guy for mediocre results.
I predicted 5-7 this year. Thought they would need a few breaks to make a bowl.
Now they may need a few breaks just to get to 4....
I went to Green Valley Ranch to watch the game today & I was sitting next to a nice guy that was playing the ponies and quietly having a nice day. I struck up a conversation with him near the end of the game and we started talking about Sanchez after some guy yelled you “You are gone Sanchez”. He turned out to be Gary Bernardi the OLine coach during Sanford’s tenure.
He said when are they gonna learn? It’s not the coaches fault, UNLV has had 12 winning seasons in 60 years and no coach has more than 2 winning seasons since Robinson. It’s the administration. We went 2-10, 2-10, 2-10, 5-7, 5-7 and they fired Sanford.
He also added something most aren’t talking about, “How do you replace your offensive coordinator when he goes down in July?
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The Admin is always hopeful that the next guy figures out a way to turn it around for them. It is up to the Admin to figure it out and fix it.
Good football programs don’t happen by accident.
Still don't understand the logic. If you intend on firing him in a month, there's no benefit to firing him now. Any coach you want will still be coaching right now (unless you REALLY want Willie Taggart) and you can't talk to him anyway. It also means you owe him more money. If there's an obvious coach on your staff who has a shot at taking over, maybe the conversation is valid, but to me, there's not. There might be a guy or two who would be worth giving a shot as interim, but there definitely isn't an obvious one.
New Mexico isn't a good example, but maybe SJSU is making the right moves.
UNM is under fire with Bob Davies who, despite all kinds of issues on and mostly off the field, is still at UNM. Their system is broken too. I haven't found a UNM fan who supports him...
Agree.
If you fire him now, all the verbal commits you have right either start getting poached or open recruiting back up.
You let the season play out. Have your replacement picked out.
Announce immediately following Reno game your decision on Sanchez' future.
If they plan to go a different route you name replacement during dead period before bowls. Let them rerecruit (if that is a word) all the current verbals. Meet with the current players and hopefully convince most to stay vs having a bunch enter transfer portal.
If things could play out this way, that would be outstanding. I worry that too many other dominoes will have to fall before UNLV will get its choice. Gotta figure anywhere from 5-15 jobs open up, each better than UNLV. Some will be current head coaches (Kiffin to FSU?) that won't impact UNLV much until the trickle down of FAU having to hire new coach and coordinators. It would be great though if UNLV could lock a guy in before the bowls get started.
I don't think she is stupid. If the Mora rumors from last season are true she has been actively looking since last year or at the very least anticipating a change might be needed.
Not here to debate her handling of the Menzies firing and subsequent search that landed on Otz. It's been discussed. People have their opinions on it. Nobody is changing their mind. She alienated boosters, she isn't well liked in important circles etc etc.
She played the last search close to the vest. She had a list of people she wanted. It appears she is looking for a young coach at the beggining of a positive career arc.
I have to imagine a similiar list has already been put together. I would also imagine preliminary discussions like permission to speak to coaches (if that's needed for assistants) has begun or been going on.
I honestly believe if Coach Sanchez is out at the end of the season a new coach will be named pretty quickly.
Whether fans love, hate or are meh with the hire....Anyone's guess.
You may be on to something.
Fill your roster with 25 scholarship guys and another 75 walk ons. Not sure why nobody has tried that approach in the past.
The issue is that the closer we get to the end of the season, the less time there will be for recruiting for next year. Most likely those players that are worth keeping that have been recruited for next season by Sanchez are gone whether Sanchez is gone now or later.
It's not that simple though.
Say you fire him tomorrow. Sake of argument, Skipper takes over as interim HC.
Coaches from other schools immediately start trying to poach verbal commits and some begin opening their recruiting back up.
Let's assume there is a list of candidates already in place.
If you fire him at end of season and have a replacement ready there is a dead period before the bowls start. If you have a guy lined up you announce the new hire and he can start meeting with players and I believe he can contact current commits then.
Firing him now with no replacement in place gains you very little.
A lot of recruiting is also done by assistants. The next coach will likely retain one maybe two guys on the current staff to help with the transition and retain players.
Cormier survived both Sanford and Hauck I believe.
I guess maybe if it were a guy not currently working he might be able to speak to players immediately upon being hired. (Not sure on the rule there.) If it's a guy currently working, not sure what the rule is there either.
You fire him now I think it sours players on the university. Whatever we think of Coach Sanchez, there are players that like the guy. They don't want to see him fired. Doing it in season is a bad look.
Hauck is viewed by most here as an abject failure. That said, I spoke with Devante Davis a couple times and he said he absolutely loved the guy. Felt like Hauck helped make him the man he is today. Felt like the school didn't support him enough. Players view coaches differently than we do.
There's no scandal. APR is in good shape. You let the season play out. Let him finish the year, maybe he keeps the canon as a parting gift.
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I don't want to see him fired till after Reno, but I don't buy the recruiting argument that much.
Too many of our recruits have us as their only serious FBS school that is showing them interest. We only have to worry about a few players being poached.
I don't want to see him fired early because it's just bad form. We don't need a worse name than we already have. Plus, for many coaches I believe she is considering, she'll have to wait till post season is over anyway so very little is gained with an early firing.
I'm still holding out hope for my man Urban. I've reached out to him. Written letters. Made calls. Sent tweets and emails. I may even drive by his house if his pesky lawyers stop sending me cease and desist letters. I respectfully disagree with their assessment of me just wanting to discuss the job with him.
Early firings seem mostly driven not by tactics but by an AD wanting to appease media pressure, pushy boosters, and/or widespread anger among the fan base.
Which of these pressures is DRF facing?
Media? I heard that the LVRJ didn't even send Mark Anderson to cover the CSU game.
Boosters? Not demanding a firing as far as I can tell.
Widespread fan anger? Ask ten random Las Vegans today who the coach at UNLV is and how is doing and see how stirred up the community is.
Which of these pressures is DRF facing?
Media? I heard that the LVRJ didn't even send Mark Anderson to cover the CSU game.
Boosters? Not demanding a firing as far as I can tell.
Widespread fan anger? Ask ten random Las Vegans today who the coach at UNLV is and how is doing and see how stirred up the community is.
You forgot a couple of other motivators, both of which I think apply. I agree with you that the ones you mention aren’t motivators in this situation.
Personal and career advancement. You can also throw in something as simple as standard assessment. Is he doing a good enough job in his five years? I think everyone would answer no.
You don't want start recruiting in December though. I think there are 9 total commits already.
Rivals has 3, 3* 247 has UNLV at 6 or 7, 3* (because recruiting rankings are an exact science obviously)..
Say of the 9, 6 leave. That's 6 more players and that much more time spent on filling those spots back up vs just focusing on the last 10-15 spots tou need to fill.
Plus he has to meet with guys already here and try to avoid losing to many.
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