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116

I'm actually surprised we are not 120 or lower. If CMA continues on his current trajectory we will probably Ranked between 125-130 by mid season! SMH

How bad are we? They have "F"Reno at 106!
 
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116? With our long-standing record of success?
Damned Arroyo! Win or get out!
I just hope they let us play our games.
 
Arroyo is paid near the top of the MWC, but he isn't the top paid coach. CSU and Wyoming both pay their coaches $1.6 million/year, UNLV pays $1.55 million/year.

I do agree that we need to see a huge improvement this year considering BSU and SDSU are 6th and 7th in regards to the pay of their head coach.
 
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There are many reasons to think there will be some sort of leap in success this year.

A nice transfer class filling needs even improving area of strengths.

Promising recruiting classes of year's past should be maturing and coming into form this year.

A lot of close games last season that could have gone the other way.

A slightly less daunting schedule.

It will be a bit unreasonable to expect a bowl game this year, but I wouldn't call it impossible. Look at that list, not a lot of MW teams above 75.

I think it is fair that if Arroyo doesn't at least improve to 4-5 wins, then maybe he doesn't have it.
 
I think it’s more than fair to assume he is the wrong guy, we don’t have time for a “slow builder” type with realignment going on all around us. I know there several here who have been conditioned to think that winning4 games this year is a good sign but I’m not one of you. This guy was supposed to be an offensive coordinator and ace recruiter from U of O but where is the magic? His recruiting has been nice but let’s see some action on the field in games that lead to some wins. I remember rebswin2 saying this guy was not responsible for Herbert’s development and he was about to be fired anyway. I’m starting to see that was a good observation, he should be able to get something done this year, like 6-6 and bowl eligibility. He has been here long enough, 4-5 wins this season would be underachieving in my opinion!
 
I think it’s more than fair to assume he is the wrong guy, we don’t have time for a “slow builder” type with realignment going on all around us. I know there several here who have been conditioned to think that winning4 games this year is a good sign but I’m not one of you. This guy was supposed to be an offensive coordinator and ace recruiter from U of O but where is the magic? His recruiting has been nice but let’s see some action on the field in games that lead to some wins. I remember rebswin2 saying this guy was not responsible for Herbert’s development and he was about to be fired anyway. I’m starting to see that was a good observation, he should be able to get something done this year, like 6-6 and bowl eligibility. He has been here long enough, 4-5 wins this season would be underachieving in my opinion!
I understand this thought, and deep down I think he can pull off at least 5 wins. Like I said, I would not be terrible surprised if he got 6-7 wins, or more.

But you have to have some reasonable expectaion. 7 of the best seasons in UNLV history in the past 20 years were 5 win seasons? ( I didn't look that up, but you know what I mean).

The books have us at 4.5, at that is pushed by home team action. We are ranked 116, there are reasons for that.

I do think the 4.5 is very good and likely fall at 4 or 5 wins. I'm hoping for more.

And he will keep his job with 4 or 5 wins.
 
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I. I am sure, like you all, am a long-time season ticket holder. I look forward to seeing you at the games.. The fact that some of us are not ready to dump Arroyo before he has coached even two full seasons does not mean that we accept losing.
A bit of reality. This program has been less than mediocre for decades. After multiple coaches, most with 4 or 5 years here, we now expect that the current guy should have the program turned around after 18 games.
Please show me the program that has had 40 years of losing,who turned it all around in less than 20 games. Bet there aren't too many.
Oh yeah. We have great buildings. Like stadiums win games. Have you been to Wisconsin? Michigan? The LA coliseum?

I believe it is possible to win at UNLV. Is 5 wins a "slow build?" I expect big improvement this year. But, threatening firing before the first snap of the 19th game? C'mon.
Finally, UNLV will not become a P5 member. Hope for a program that can go to a medium level bowl game each year. That can happen. But, not this year.
 
I. I am sure, like you all, am a long-time season ticket holder. I look forward to seeing you at the games.. The fact that some of us are not ready to dump Arroyo before he has coached even two full seasons does not mean that we accept losing.
A bit of reality. This program has been less than mediocre for decades. After multiple coaches, most with 4 or 5 years here, we now expect that the current guy should have the program turned around after 18 games.
Please show me the program that has had 40 years of losing,who turned it all around in less than 20 games. Bet there aren't too many.
Oh yeah. We have great buildings. Like stadiums win games. Have you been to Wisconsin? Michigan? The LA coliseum?

I believe it is possible to win at UNLV. Is 5 wins a "slow build?" I expect big improvement this year. But, threatening firing before the first snap of the 19th game? C'mon.
Finally, UNLV will not become a P5 member. Hope for a program that can go to a medium level bowl game each year. That can happen. But, not this year.
You have your opinion and it’s your reality that we should just sit back and let things play out, I don’t agree! Why does it bother you so much when I voice my opinion about not thinking 4 wins is acceptable? You have your thoughts on things, I have mine, we don’t see things the same way. This is a message board meant for all fans to vent how they feel, none of us have all the answers, just opinions. Just because the program has been a loser doesn’t mean you have to keep the loser mentality going forward. Things can change and they should change. Accountability is important and if you not good at your job, you get fired! He should have a blank check for 2 more years because of the universities ineptitudes of the past? I know your supposed to be a voice of reason but give me a break, show something this year and win or go elsewhere Marcus. By the way, you don’t have to do the passive aggressive thing with me, I‘ve disagreed with many on here and I don’t expect that to end soon!
 
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You have your opinion and it’s your reality that we should just sit back and let things play out, I don’t agree! Why does it bother you so you so much when I voice my opinion about not thinking 4 wins is acceptable? You have your thoughts on things, I have mine, we don’t see things the same way. This is a message board meant for all fans to vent how they feel, none of us have all the answers, just opinions. Just because the program has been a loser doesn’t mean you have to keep the loser mentality going forward. Things can change and they should change. Accountability is important and if you not good at your job, you get fired! He should have a blank check for 2 more years because of the universities ineptitudes of the past? I know your supposed to be a voice of reason but give me a break, show something this year and win or go elsewhere Marcus. By the way, you don’t have to do the passive aggressive thing with me, I‘ve disagreed with many on here and I don’t expect that to end soon!
I hear where you are coming from, unfortunately accountability isn’t something we see in today’s world. You see a lot of failing upwards.

I believe it will take a monumental failure (3 wins or less) for UNLV to even contemplate it. Four or more, I think he’s actually safe. Doesn’t mean I agree with it, I just think that’s the way it would play out.

I think it’s tougher in football, just the maturity of players and how long it takes to come together. Basketball, I think you can do it overnight (with resources).
 
I hear where you are coming from, unfortunately accountability isn’t something we see in today’s world. You see a lot of failing upwards.

I believe it will take a monumental failure (3 wins or less) for UNLV to even contemplate it. Four or more, I think he’s actually safe. Doesn’t mean I agree with it, I just think that’s the way it would play out.

I think it’s tougher in football, just the maturity of players and how long it takes to come together. Basketball, I think you can do it overnight (with resources).
Fair enough! And you are right, failing upward is at an all time high. Let me ask you Joe, what would be a reasonable expectation next season for Arroyo, bowl eligibility at a minimum?
 
5280, I wasn't aiming at you. Certainly you have a right to your opinion. You are not alone in thinking 4 wins is not enough. I would tend to agree, although I think 4 may happen.
So, I guess I have a right to my opinion, also, correct?

Please re-read my post. I stated that we have changed coaches repeatedly, with little success. That telling a coach to hit the road with 4 wins may not be the panacea. Maybe it would work. But, changing coaches every few years doesn't seem to work.

Perhaps a coaching change will take place. Arroyo could get fired. Would that you are right and they get a star to turn around the program. My 52-year experience watching Rebel football tells me it is not likely.

To be sure, I am not predicting 3,4, 5 6,7 or whatever wins without seeing a single snap.
You have a right to your opinion. Me, too. After all, that's all we have right now.
 
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I hear where you are coming from, unfortunately accountability isn’t something we see in today’s world. You see a lot of failing upwards.

I believe it will take a monumental failure (3 wins or less) for UNLV to even contemplate it. Four or more, I think he’s actually safe. Doesn’t mean I agree with it, I just think that’s the way it would play out.

I think it’s tougher in football, just the maturity of players and how long it takes to come together. Basketball, I think you can do it overnight (with resources).
This season, expectation is to get 4-5 wins. Get to 6 or more, and it is exceeding expectations. 3 or less, definitely underachieving.

Next season is where success is imperative. Should have a bunch of key players returning. Aside from playing at Michigan, the schedule should be the easiest we’ve had in years. This is the year I’m looking for us to really turn a corner.

Except for one fluke season with Hauck, we haven’t turned a corner for 20 years, so it’s optimistic to think it’s going to happen. However, I’ve had fun following the team for the last several years and I will continue rooting for them. If anything, the players that CMA is bringing in is providing more hope than Hauck or Sanchez ever did.
 
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Everything has been pointing in the right direction and then in one week we end up not getting Randy Masters who was the top recruit for 2022 and then we lose Brennen Scott, who was the top recruit for 2020, to an injury for the year! Life sucks as a UNLV football fan!
 
Everything has been pointing in the right direction and then in one week we end up not getting Randy Masters who was the top recruit for 2022 and then we lose Brennen Scott, who was the top recruit for 2020, to an injury for the year! Life sucks as a UNLV football fan!
Losing Scott really hurts the team. The dude was a terror last year. Damn
 
5280, I wasn't aiming at you. Certainly you have a right to your opinion. You are not alone in thinking 4 wins is not enough. I would tend to agree, although I think 4 may happen.
So, I guess I have a right to my opinion, also, correct?

Please re-read my post. I stated that we have changed coaches repeatedly, with little success. That telling a coach to hit the road with 4 wins may not be the panacea. Maybe it would work. But, changing coaches every few years doesn't seem to work.

Perhaps a coaching change will take place. Arroyo could get fired. Would that you are right and they get a star to turn around the program. My 52-year experience watching Rebel football tells me it is not likely.

To be sure, I am not predicting 3,4, 5 6,7 or whatever wins without seeing a single snap.
You have a right to your opinion. Me, too. After all, that's all we have right now.
For me, 4 wins would be a disappointment. But, you have to put it into context. Four wins with a minimally injured team would be a disappointment. But if you go through what we did last year especially with the QBs it would be a bit more understanding. My only complaint is that CMA should be more public oriented in his communication. It does not help him at all by keeping everything under wraps. UNLV fans are understandably impatient and more news would help that along.
 
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Already losing Scott to an injury concerns me along the same vane as last year with all of the injuries. Is something being done wrong in regards to the training to cause the injuries, or is it the lack of consistent strong offensive and defensive lines leaving the skill players open to more injuries, or is it something else? If UNLV has another year full of injuries, that could destroy any chance of having a winning season.
 
I have no skin in the game with this debate. I simply watch the quarterbacks. The velocity with which they throw, the pre snap reads, adjustments to blitzes, ability to take a hit are what I watch for. These attributes make for great quarterbacks. When the quarterback can adjust pre snap to defensive pressure and adjustments, good things can happen. The ball has to get out in three seconds, after that all hell breaks loose and only the Fran Tarkenton types can escape it. I want all of our qb's to have time to throw the long ball but with a smallish OL and new schemes we will see.
 
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Already losing Scott to an injury concerns me along the same vane as last year with all of the injuries. Is something being done wrong in regards to the training to cause the injuries, or is it the lack of consistent strong offensive and defensive lines leaving the skill players open to more injuries, or is it something else? If UNLV has another year full of injuries, that could destroy any chance of having a winning season.
Personally, artificial turf can be the problem. I agree that strength and conditioning matter the most. Pro's get hurt too, I believe, Raiders lost a LB yesterday too for the season.
 
Already losing Scott to an injury concerns me along the same vane as last year with all of the injuries. Is something being done wrong in regards to the training to cause the injuries, or is it the lack of consistent strong offensive and defensive lines leaving the skill players open to more injuries, or is it something else? If UNLV has another year full of injuries, that could destroy any chance of having a winning season.

Honestly I don't think it's any of those things..

Injuries are kinda flukey, especially in sports. Take the Knights last year, rash of injuries. There was no change to their conditioning program.

Reality is, sports like football or hockey hell even lesser contact sports like baseball and basketball, are asking a human body to do things it wasn't designed to do.

We were meant to be able to run. We aren't meant to be able to run and cut on a dime and change direction, especially at the size and speed of these guys.
 
Fellas we'll be alright this year. We were in games last year with a qb who last played his junior year in high school due to COVID. The quarterback play has been killing us for years is it any doubt our last bowl game was with Caleb Herring when he was having a tremendous statistical year. I'll say this again, football the way defenses can play with the rules set up as they are is a Quarterback league. It is important as starting pitching in baseball. Give us a solid starter and the rest will take care of itself. That's why I'm hoping it's either Bailey or Brumfield.

I like CMA, I like ex-quarterbacks as coaches especially overachiever types. UNLV football has been disastrous for decades. In my mind I'm seeing solid improvements across the boards, scheduling, recruiting, infrastructure, organizational stability. Having said that, the wins must come but I still like my coach going into this year. I will evaluate after this year but no knee jerk decisions.

I'll be there front row in the end zone Go Rebs!
 
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